With the overwhelming work that has been put into fixing this ability since before August, it has been made abundantly clear you are not going to fix this ability. With this I have a simple solution and it will only require changing the verbiage of the ability.Instead of Ewok scramble tactics, change the name to "Cr ap shoot" erase the current description and replace it with "Stealth Teebo, Will it work? We don't know, why should you?" Cooldown still 5, and add "we don't know why either and that's how it's going to stay because we have no intentions on fixing this ability like we said we would."I know it is a little wordy, but it really provides a level of transparency to the customer. Thanks

"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him. What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is. I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug. You can easily get 5 mil against rancor with ftp toons. Hell, I don't even think whales use premium toons against it, except out of boredom.

"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him. What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is. I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug. Believe it or not, they actually tried to do the simple fix of not applying the leader ability when teebo was already stealthed, but somehow this fix utterly failed. I'd guess that the game code is pretty messed up under the surface, so a proper fix would likely require a lot of code rewriting.

"MetxChris;794994" wrote:"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him. What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is. I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug. Believe it or not, they actually tried to do the simple fix of not applying the leader ability when teebo was already stealthed, but somehow this fix utterly failed. I'd guess that the game code is pretty messed up under the surface, so a proper fix would likely require a lot of code rewriting. They make enough money, they can afford to rewrite some code. It's such a blatant slap In the face least they could do is admit they don't want to fix it.

Indeed. There are times I can finish the pigs on my own. There are times I can't. Its not down to poor skill, or bad RNG. It's down to a characters abilities doing the complete opposite of what they say. Recently, it seems worse. I don't think I've seen Teebo stealthed for more than a single turn in weeks. It used to be random when it would break. Now it seems to do so consistently. That may be the problem the above poster mentioned about it being more broken after a fix. Teebo is a great character and his abilities extend far beyond Heroic Rancor. He should be fixed.

They could just reduce the cooldown to 2 or 3. That way when (and I mean when) he drops stealth and you have to manually reapply it, when it drops after the next turn it can be manually triggered again. Better than the will it/won't it debate every time.

Teebo ability, Ewok scramble tactics

1amyourfath3r
8 years ago
"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.

You can easily get 5 mil against rancor with ftp toons. Hell, I don't even think whales use premium toons against it, except out of boredom.
metxchris
8 years ago
"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.

Believe it or not, they actually tried to do the simple fix of not applying the leader ability when teebo was already stealthed, but somehow this fix utterly failed. I'd guess that the game code is pretty messed up under the surface, so a proper fix would likely require a lot of code rewriting.
IFlamthrowI
8 years ago
"MetxChris;794994" wrote:
"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.

Believe it or not, they actually tried to do the simple fix of not applying the leader ability when teebo was already stealthed, but somehow this fix utterly failed. I'd guess that the game code is pretty messed up under the surface, so a proper fix would likely require a lot of code rewriting.

They make enough money, they can afford to rewrite some code. It's such a blatant slap In the face least they could do is admit they don't want to fix it.
gerryhendo
8 years ago
Indeed. There are times I can finish the pigs on my own. There are times I can't. Its not down to poor skill, or bad RNG. It's down to a characters abilities doing the complete opposite of what they say.

Recently, it seems worse. I don't think I've seen Teebo stealthed for more than a single turn in weeks. It used to be random when it would break. Now it seems to do so consistently.

That may be the problem the above poster mentioned about it being more broken after a fix.

Teebo is a great character and his abilities extend far beyond Heroic Rancor. He should be fixed.
KlockoFett
8 years ago
They could just reduce the cooldown to 2 or 3. That way when (and I mean when) he drops stealth and you have to manually reapply it, when it drops after the next turn it can be manually triggered again. Better than the will it/won't it debate every time.
metxchris
8 years ago
"Flamethrow;795009" wrote:
"MetxChris;794994" wrote:
"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.

Believe it or not, they actually tried to do the simple fix of not applying the leader ability when teebo was already stealthed, but somehow this fix utterly failed. I'd guess that the game code is pretty messed up under the surface, so a proper fix would likely require a lot of code rewriting.

They make enough money, they can afford to rewrite some code. It's such a blatant slap In the face least they could do is admit they don't want to fix it.

I couldn't agree more. But the entirety of the code is probably a slopfest and if it wasn't done well the first time then it probably won't be done well on a rewrite either. If anything, I think it would be beneficial to everyone if they just created a new position and hired someone who was good at organising and writing clean and efficient code. This could be lumped together with general bug fixing as well.
badsmack
8 years ago
There's an easier fix. If Teebo is lead, he's always slealthed. The rest of the team's stealth can continue to be random. Just remove the randomness for Teebo. If he's debuffed (by, say, B2), his special returns his stealth. Simple.
missnav
8 years ago
Love the ability description. This is frequently how I read it when he drops out of stealth right after I use this ability.
kevmani
8 years ago
He will never get fixed, just accept it by now
BrtStlnd
8 years ago
I think it's obvious they don't want to fix it. The result would only serve to make the pit raid even easier, and they don't want to do that.

I mean they fixed a bug with CUP before they got to the most widely reported bug in the game. They really ought to just say "hey we've decided to change the scramble tactics ability for raid balancing purposes".