Tenacity up

Are u use debuff team? lol

Tenacity up wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't part of a triple cleanse with Baze and Cheirut.

"RacerDejak;c-1101797" wrote:
Are u use debuff team? lol

Are you a tenacity up user? lol

Just saying that tenacity stat doesn't worth nothing on arena. It's time to look on those things.

It's not normal that someone with 3000 tenacity will get debuffed, while someone with 15 tenacity + tenacity up can't suffer any debuff...

Stop dismissing complaints about tenacity up simply as sith teams crying about their arena rank.

As it stands, there is LITERALLY no other team that can even rely on a single benefit from debuffs when fighting against tenacity up. BH, Droids, Jawas, even empire teams outside Vader have no chance. You must really enjoy a bland META

I keep hearing about checks and balances. Where is the check for any DS team to compete against a tenacity up team? They can't. If a DS team can beat a tenacity up team it's because of one of the following

-Win in spite of no debuffs- zSO, zKylo, DN
-Use tenacity up themselves

To be "balanced" LS needs a way to deal with debuffs (cleanse) and DS needs a way to deal with buffs (purge).

If you really want to compare the utility of b2 with Chirrut, Rex or GK in the context of balance, then you might need to reexamine your definition of balance

"Moicaliss;c-1101852" wrote:
It's not normal that someone with 3000 tenacity will get debuffed, while someone with 15 tenacity + tenacity up can't suffer any debuff...

Someone with 3k tenacity would resist everything...

"Bulldog1205;c-1101868" wrote:

"Moicaliss;c-1101852" wrote:
It's not normal that someone with 3000 tenacity will get debuffed, while someone with 15 tenacity + tenacity up can't suffer any debuff...

Someone with 3k tenacity would resist everything...

Nope.

"Balanced;c-1101865" wrote:
Stop dismissing complaints about tenacity up simply as sith teams crying about their arena rank.

As it stands, there is LITERALLY no other team that can even rely on a single benefit from debuffs when fighting against tenacity up. BH, Droids, Jawas, even empire teams outside Vader have no chance. You must really enjoy a bland META

I keep hearing about checks and balances. Where is the check for any DS team to compete against a tenacity up team? They can't. If a DS team can beat a tenacity up team it's because of one of the following

-Win in spite of no debuffs- zSO, zKylo, DN
-Use tenacity up themselves

To be "balanced" LS needs a way to deal with debuffs (cleanse) and DS needs a way to deal with buffs (purge).

If you really want to compare the utility of b2 with Chirrut, Rex or GK in the context of balance, then you might need to reexamine your definition of balance

A tenacity down doesn't provide 100% debuff


I'm just saying let's the stats works. Someone with low tenacity and tenacity up shouldn't resist. Someone with low potency shouldn't apply any debuff. It's just normal.

This isn't about Sith teams or debuffs, tenacity up is NOT supposed to be immunity to everything. It does need to be addressed.

Totally agree with OP

I don't understand why tenacity up makes every attack impossible to inflict debuff - it's tenacity up, not tenacity max!