The death of fun in GAC & TW

Are you sure it is mainly because of DC? I mean I don't like DC as well. And I can understand the new fun you discover with a fresh alt (happy for you). That's why many seasoned players start alts, because you are (again) limited in your options and have to force yourself into investment decisions, which you probably long forgot to be necessary. All of that brings back fun. Absence of DC? Yes, maybe a little as well, but don't think it's decisive.

On to the grand schema: DC was actually a bit of fun when they got introduced because it disrupts the norm. But now, it's part of the routine in top-end GAC. Apart from the short period when a new set is introduced and everyone is running around trying to figure what's the best combo, it does not really contribute to fun that much in the long run as hyped. Rather when the dust settled, they contribute much more to frustration as it limit your play to the same counters (i.e. SLKR vs LV in 3v3). The set4 is now boring as hell because everyone has figured out and is trying to get more and more dodge% (or accuracy%). Set 5 is more interesting because of the stats. But it's just a matter of time when everyone got enough of what they need. Then the fun will stagnate. In this sense, CG made a bad decision prolonging the life-span of a DC set.

Never thought GA was fun to begin with

"joelgs23;d-260250" wrote:
Datacron ruining the fun? I tested my feelings to be sure that the popular opinion is legit my own and not something I adopted from hearing it over and over.... So. I created an ALT account and built it up for GAC. Now that its 1st full GAC is over... I confirmed my gut feeling, DATACRONS SUCK the fun out of this game! My 9.5m GP account is so boring to play now.... every single GAC / TW is the exact same with no variation. My guild just saw 32 LV Datacrons in the first spot alone.... **** !!!! ... On the flip side, my new 1m GP ALT's first GAC was very fun... should I keep growing it? If Datacrons remain the same I probably will not, cause it's a dead end it seems. I HATE these stupid things and wish CG would remove or nerf the crap out of them!

1. what is your alt's gg?
2. what league/division is your alt in?

my opinion: yes, i believe DCs are unfun, but i have a hard time believing your alt is far enough along to be in a division where DCs make it unfun for it....unless, of course, you spent a lot of money on your experiment.

my main is in Kyber and I and most of my opponents have 2 or 3 DCs that don't even get used most of the time. I believe that if CG had to devote a lot of time to DCs they would've scrapped them as I don't think they are heavily used; but i think it's kind of an "insert new stats and come up with a new name every couple months" kind of a system, they can keep raking in money with little effort.

anyway, all that is my opinion, you can feel free to post your alt's gg and prove my opinions are biased if you like.

Personally i think DCs are a good idea. Just think there was bad implementation when giving them to GLs. Should be used to make B or C teams A- or A teams. Not A teams into A++ teams. Hopefully they see how silly the GL DCs are and they don't come back around. Would like to see them for GG, Phoenix, NS, or the like.

I would rather see all DCs scraped. They are just a terrible addition to the game.

@el_mago

my opinion: yes, i believe DCs are unfun, but i have a hard time believing your alt is far enough along to be in a division where DCs make it unfun for it....unless, of course, you spent a lot of money on your experiment.

The whole point of the OP is that there are no DataCrons in the alt's GAC run. Neither DCs possessed by the alt nor by the opponents.

Of course you have a hard time believing the alt is far enough along to have DCs make GAC unfun.

The OP is saying that GAC is very fun for the alt (no datacrons), and unfun for the 9.5M account (with datacrons).

I never liked GAC much, so whatevs. But I know that for lots of people Datacrons do ruin the fun, and I have no problem believing the OP ran the experiment and found that GAC is still fun (for them) without DCs even though it's not fun for them on the account with DCs.

I appreciate your work, OP, and hope you continue to have fun in whichever account(s) you end up playing.

DC's have taken all the fun out of GAC for me. I barely play it anymore because of DC's. 9 mil account. They really need to go.... the worst thing to happen to this game BY FAR!

"MasterSeedy;c-2394099" wrote:
@el_mago

my opinion: yes, i believe DCs are unfun, but i have a hard time believing your alt is far enough along to be in a division where DCs make it unfun for it....unless, of course, you spent a lot of money on your experiment.

The whole point of the OP is that there are no DataCrons in the alt's GAC run. Neither DCs possessed by the alt nor by the opponents.

Of course you have a hard time believing the alt is far enough along to have DCs make GAC unfun.

The OP is saying that GAC is very fun for the alt (no datacrons), and unfun for the 9.5M account (with datacrons).

I never liked GAC much, so whatevs. But I know that for lots of people Datacrons do ruin the fun, and I have no problem believing the OP ran the experiment and found that GAC is still fun (for them) without DCs even though it's not fun for them on the account with DCs.

I appreciate your work, OP, and hope you continue to have fun in whichever account(s) you end up playing.

I see what you mean. I did not read it that way at first pass. I tend to agree with OP, then.

I watch Ahnald's GAC matches and think that level of datacron investment to be ill-suited for my enjoyment level. I like where I am now with very little engagement by myself and my opponents.

"joelgs23;d-260250" wrote:
My 9.5m GP account is so boring to play now.... every single GAC / TW is the exact same with no variation.

If this is your problem, without DC it will be worse. At least with DC you have a change of meta every 2 months.

"joelgs23;d-260250" wrote:
I tested my feelings to be sure that the popular opinion is legit my own and not something I adopted from hearing it over and over

No offense but this came off as incredibly sociopathic lol