The Heroic AAT Raid...

ow the need that you guys have to feel special for beating a heroic raid its impressive.
- its supposed to be challenging;
- its not for everyone
- I'm feeling superior than those who can't beat it.
- Finally one thing in my meanless life that i can be happy with.
- Lets base the decision on my personal experience. since the world spin around my ego.

We're actually close to having to limit one team per phase and we're by no means a full whale guild.

"djvita;757242" wrote:
Look, i agree the heroic is fine as is
its just that it has great requirements (at least my roster depth) which most guilds don't have. not even mine does, sure once most are lvl 85 and have more g11 chars will we crush it
but for most of the community that is at least 5-6 months away

and then there is the fact that some guilds consolidated their whales and now they fins that its getting too easy; here is your solution to make it harder, bring some of your weak membranes in, get them to do heroics, cycle the whales back to the weak guilds so that all the sub guild are doing heroic.

That's exactly what's going to happen, and it'll be the rancor raid all over again. My guild is already putting restrictions on how fast the raid can be taken down so that everyone has a chance to log in damage.

I think they should add 3x health to the Heroic. Make it more interesting.

"DarthR244D;757274" wrote:
I think they should add 3x health to the Heroic. Make it more interesting.

Boring not interesting

"tRRRey;757343" wrote:

"DarthR244D;757274" wrote:
I think they should add 3x health to the Heroic. Make it more interesting.

Boring not interesting

You misspelled challenging, that's what they call the normal raid.

"Naw;757348" wrote:

"tRRRey;757343" wrote:

"DarthR244D;757274" wrote:
I think they should add 3x health to the Heroic. Make it more interesting.

Boring not interesting

You misspelled challenging, that's what they call the normal raid.

No one calls it that, if normal was challenging people wouldn't be sending in squads and hitting auto

"tRRRey;757402" wrote:

"Naw;757348" wrote:

"tRRRey;757343" wrote:

"DarthR244D;757274" wrote:
I think they should add 3x health to the Heroic. Make it more interesting.

Boring not interesting

You misspelled challenging, that's what they call the normal raid.

No one calls it that, if normal was challenging people wouldn't be sending in squads and hitting auto

that's just because the difference between a good run and an auto run is too little compared to the total health. Being able to finish the raid in 7 days instead of 8/9 doesn't justify spending an hour a day maximizing damage with all of your 5 attempts. It's just not worth it. This has nothing to do with how challenging/difficult a normal raid is.

"tRRRey;757189" wrote:

"GeorgeRules;757069" wrote:

"tRRRey;756839" wrote:

"GeorgeRules;756413" wrote:
Leave heroic alone but add the same rewards to t6. Or make heroic more accessible. The former makes sense to me. Normal mode and hard mode... Both should be rewarding. Especially as normal mode can take some time.

If you're suggesting normal mode should award Kenobi shards or equal amounts of gear as heroic, I have to disagree. Heroic has to be more rewarding than normal because it's evidently more difficult

I disagree, I think if you have the right squads it is easy to do the required 1 mil of damage on auto. In fact, I'd say the fact normal takes longer to complete would say that people should be getting more rewards for that than a 1 hour heroic effort. The difference is squads and mods, not effort.

By your logic normal is somehow harder to complete than heroic, so why aren't more guilds switching over to heroic? Because there's no risk of failure when you start normal, and a lot of people don't have the right squads. If they did you wouldn't see the forums drowning in complaints about normal mode. The only problem with normal is the health values, everything besides that makes is much easier than heroic and thus it should never give the same rewards as heroic. If rewards were based on time needed for completion it would encourage even more guilds to draw out their normal raids.

By my logic, the difference between effort required is none existent. I'd love to see if those completing heroic could do it without droids and wiggs. If you want a challenge.. try that and see how far you get.

"GeorgeRules;757576" wrote:

"tRRRey;757189" wrote:

"GeorgeRules;757069" wrote:

"tRRRey;756839" wrote:

"GeorgeRules;756413" wrote:
Leave heroic alone but add the same rewards to t6. Or make heroic more accessible. The former makes sense to me. Normal mode and hard mode... Both should be rewarding. Especially as normal mode can take some time.

If you're suggesting normal mode should award Kenobi shards or equal amounts of gear as heroic, I have to disagree. Heroic has to be more rewarding than normal because it's evidently more difficult

I disagree, I think if you have the right squads it is easy to do the required 1 mil of damage on auto. In fact, I'd say the fact normal takes longer to complete would say that people should be getting more rewards for that than a 1 hour heroic effort. The difference is squads and mods, not effort.

By your logic normal is somehow harder to complete than heroic, so why aren't more guilds switching over to heroic? Because there's no risk of failure when you start normal, and a lot of people don't have the right squads. If they did you wouldn't see the forums drowning in complaints about normal mode. The only problem with normal is the health values, everything besides that makes is much easier than heroic and thus it should never give the same rewards as heroic. If rewards were based on time needed for completion it would encourage even more guilds to draw out their normal raids.

By my logic, the difference between effort required is none existent. I'd love to see if those completing heroic could do it without droids and wiggs. If you want a challenge.. try that and see how far you get.

If it's non existent then why aren't more guilds switching over to heroic, why do normal at all? There's no reason for me to stop using Wiggs and droids in heroic raids, why would I handicap myself?