They have counters!

"danflorian1984;d-109201" wrote:
Don't you just love this response:" they have counters" ?
It is a magical one, the answer to all possible complains about any toon, no matter how OP. Try it, it's fun!
For example: the toon is over used in the arena.
Yeah but he has counters!
or
They have half of the abilities on the game in just 2 toons. Yeah but they have counters!

It works for anything!, 3 little words have just made everything you posted invalid :)

But it's true.

Except when you build a full team of counters and suddenly drop like a rock in rankings and wonder what happened.

not sure if sarcasm or not...

"pchen3082;c-1058061" wrote:
I don't get it, what's wrong with it?

It's simple. Nobody takes in consideration how good those counters actually are as standalone toons, how much they bring to the team besides countering other toon or how available are they. Their simple existance is reason enough to put everything you want, even gamebreaking, into a toon. The fact the GSpy exist is enough to Say Baze is not OP.

Also lets compare B2 and Baze, OP toon and hos counter, since theybare both tanks.
Baze: pretaunt and autotaunt, retribution, dispel, expose + great sinergy and anti faction abilities.
B2: dispel, sometimes buff imunity.
But B2 existing is reason enough that Baze should stay as he is.

"Juex777;c-1058073" wrote:

"danflorian1984;c-1058071" wrote:

"pchen3082;c-1058061" wrote:
I don't get it, what's wrong with it?

It's simple. Nobody takes in consideration how good those counters actually are as standalone toons, how much they bring to the team besides countering other toon or how available are they. Their simple existance is reason enough to put everything you want, even gamebreaking, into a toon. The fact the GSpy exist is enough to Say Baze is not OP.

I have found that the counters themselves are excellent toons. This is true.

How many of this counters are truly excellent, is there even one counter even close to power or utility to the toon is countering.
Also do this counters have sinergies between them? this is not a vacuum, a 1 vs 1 battle between toon and counter.

"BrianBuchanans;c-1058062" wrote:
"I couldn't beat a Chaze team but I know people will give me flack if I say it outright"

https://swgoh.gg/u/danflorian1984/
Are you sure?

Here a few counters,

Zader counters the HoT with DoT, has unavoidable Cull with damage multiplier for debuffs.
DNihilus counters buffs by dispelling them, and annihilates someone after 3-4 turns.
Boba Fett counters buffs/debuffs stacks with Execute. Bounty Hunter Resolve allows targeting outside taunts.
Together in a team, provide 3 types of insta-kill.

As for individual toons: Zooku, Zkylo and Zavage would be able to beat Chirrut or Baze 1-on-1.

You don't have any of the counter toons above? Oh NO! Well how about spending the next 2 months farming and building them like I did to counter the Rex + Chaze teams. I did this 3 months ago and haven't spent a cent on swgoh.

Regards,

This is not only meant to Chaze! although is the last one. The same thing happened with Wiggs when people siting in the first place that used them, surrounded only by users of Wiggs loves taking about Wiggs counters. The same thing with Zaul, even though triple cleanse was way more effective than any other meta. etc.

"Jay_cube1;c-1058096" wrote:
Yes but they have counters fam! ;)

But the counters have their own counters !