Here is my feedback on ships:1. Ships are important. It is at least the second most important part of the game if not the most important, because you earn a lot of crystals in the top 5 and you can buy zeta mats with the currency.2. There are very few viable ships which leads to 3. Ships are very annoying because a) in developed shards in the top 20 there is 90% mirror matches and b) it basically boild down to who applies more target locks and c) if your TFP dodges a good amount of times.So basically ships are very important and at the same time the single most rng dependant part of the game ("50% chance to attack again", "70% chance to inflict target lock", "4x % chance to dodge" and so on.) which makes it a nightmare. Just to illustrate how extremely rng dependant it is: I fought my shardmate the last four days every day and won easily. Today I tried it six(!) times and lost every time. It's ridicoulous. He assured me he hasn't changed a single thing and neither did I.So my biggest wish is: Do something that RNG is not the most deciding factor in mirror matches.

"phinfan309;c-1455789" wrote:We need more ships and their equivalent of mods, which they have a slot for. This will help make it less rng dependent. My ships aren't getting me in the top 20 so I only do my daily battle. I don't like them that much for the same reasons you pointed out. At this point I dont care how they do it but they need to really dampen the effect of RNG in ships. I finfish top 5 every day but the rng dependancy is really annoying and killing the fun. For the longest time ships are not treated as any priority. I mean the bug where you couldnt chose a specific ship on the opponents lineup was there for months before they fixed it. And now with the crystals it is at least the second most important part of the game.

I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.3) Same thing applies to capital ships.4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage.

"Hazakar;c-1459273" wrote:I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.3) Same thing applies to capital ships.4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage. TROLL ACTIVATE. If both of you spent money, then both of you got the promised advanatge, therefore no advantage, therefore RNG is okay. @Hazakar

"ProximaB1_;c-1461532" wrote:I know the easiest answer isn't always the best answer. But in this case I think it is. So here is my solution to all these problems. Eliminate ships from swgoh. Um no. This is horrible honestly why would you even suggest it ?I'm only asking because the majority of people who want ships gone are people who decided they wanted nothing to do with ships and then crystals were added and then...rage ensued because they were missing out.So if there is another reason feel free to share...ships could have an amazing dynamic great raid potential and is fun to theorycraft.On a side note the OP is just flat wrong on a number of accounts. (Every single ship in the game is viable under the right capital ship)

To reiterate #2 is flat out wrong almost every ship is viable if used correctly.ITF dodge is frequently posted as OP...it's a joke if you deal with it properlyBiggs Regen same thing. They are easily dealt with if you look at the opposing fleet before you go in and select the ships that can mop the floor with themIf all else fails and you can't win at ships the new answer is get thrawn lol.Find ships with ITF, reaper and falcon in them...use fast ships kill them quick easy win

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hilikusrt
7 years ago
"phinfan309;c-1455789" wrote:
We need more ships and their equivalent of mods, which they have a slot for. This will help make it less rng dependent. My ships aren't getting me in the top 20 so I only do my daily battle. I don't like them that much for the same reasons you pointed out.

At this point I dont care how they do it but they need to really dampen the effect of RNG in ships. I finfish top 5 every day but the rng dependancy is really annoying and killing the fun. For the longest time ships are not treated as any priority. I mean the bug where you couldnt chose a specific ship on the opponents lineup was there for months before they fixed it. And now with the crystals it is at least the second most important part of the game.
Apelord
7 years ago
I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:

1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times
2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.
3) Same thing applies to capital ships.
4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.

Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage.
swgohfan29
7 years ago
"Hazakar;c-1459273" wrote:
I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:

1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times
2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.
3) Same thing applies to capital ships.
4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.

Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage.

TROLL ACTIVATE.

If both of you spent money, then both of you got the promised advanatge, therefore no advantage, therefore RNG is okay.

@Hazakar
dkreknumone
7 years ago
"ProximaB1_;c-1461532" wrote:
I know the easiest answer isn't always the best answer. But in this case I think it is. So here is my solution to all these problems.

Eliminate ships from swgoh.

Um no. This is horrible honestly why would you even suggest it ?

I'm only asking because the majority of people who want ships gone are people who decided they wanted nothing to do with ships and then crystals were added and then...rage ensued because they were missing out.

So if there is another reason feel free to share...ships could have an amazing dynamic great raid potential and is fun to theorycraft.

On a side note the OP is just flat wrong on a number of accounts. (Every single ship in the game is viable under the right capital ship)
dkreknumone
7 years ago
To reiterate #2 is flat out wrong almost every ship is viable if used correctly.

ITF dodge is frequently posted as OP...it's a joke if you deal with it properly

Biggs Regen same thing. They are easily dealt with if you look at the opposing fleet before you go in and select the ships that can mop the floor with them

If all else fails and you can't win at ships the new answer is get thrawn lol.

Find ships with ITF, reaper and falcon in them...use fast ships kill them quick easy win
RacerDejak
7 years ago
Lately in this game i feel i need much more luck rather that strategy.

My enemy and i have same tie fighter, pilot have same g12 and all upgrade. Who shoot first? RNG DECIDED. And how about whose target lock land first? RNG DECIDED. Even if u are math professor, u can't count the number. Just give people easy answer: RNG FACTOR.

In short, bad design :expressionless:
hilikusrt
7 years ago
Exactly my point @RacerDejak
It gets even worse: rng if you hit a second time where each hit has an rng that it applies target lock.

Given how much impact ships arena has on the rest of the game, it’s awful
449710430e37db5
7 years ago
Please don't say hardware. If hardware is mods for ships then it's another RNG fest for who gets the best speed mods.
449710430e37db5
7 years ago
If I were them, I'd just take the lazy way out and port the entire mod system over, rename it hardware and call it a day. I'd then continue to roll around in Star Wars Galaxy of Cash.
Acidwormss
7 years ago
I used to like ships, and now I hate it cause of RNG. Everyone has the same fleet with, maybe 1 or 2 ship differences, and everyone has gear 12 pilots with zetas and some gear 12 pieces. I just lost to someone without killing a single ship. Go again and finished in under a minute without losing a single ship, and my Biggs had full health and protection.

Ships are not fun when it it is just watching a roulette wheel.