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Ninjadad52's avatar
Ninjadad52
Rising Rookie
2 years ago

Truth in advertising

I completely understand why a company would want to capitalize on the ambiguity of language to maximize its profits, but doing so doesn't build trust with consumers.



Yes, you do include "the materials you need to reach Relic 3!," and you don't write that they are "all of the materials you need to reach Relic 3!," so 'buyer beware.' But you are using the interpretive flexibility of the language in the hopes that players will then buy the pack twice to get all of the materials needed to bring a character to Relic 3 (each pack has half the materials needed, except the fragmented and incomplete signal data, which is a little more than half). Such acts in advertising, though, don't foster trust in a company and its practices.

How about just being clear in what you are actually selling?
  • "Yuejandan52;d-261265" wrote:

    How about just being clear in what you are actually selling?


    I would like to add...
    Please dont sell items by using probability...like this...



    Please just sell a fixed amount of shard/item etc.
    I wouldnt want to spend 1,8k crystal for 4x 10 shards.


  • "GegeGerard24;c-2401416" wrote:
    "Yuejandan52;d-261265" wrote:

    How about just being clear in what you are actually selling?


    I would like to add...
    Please dont sell items by using probability...like this...







    That's not changing ever, especially for crystals.
  • Similar to how the Dr. Aphra Chase Park is worded.

    Card 2: Drops shards with a 15% chance for 5, 7% chance for 10, 2% chance for 15, 1% chance for 20.

    Yes it adds up to 25% and there's four characters which would equal 100%, but you're guaranteed only one of those characters so shouldn't the odds just total to 100%? Reading 60%, 28%, 8%, 4%?
  • "Antario;c-2401588" wrote:
    As F2P, I don't need to waste my time looking at all these "great" offers. Using reasonable amount of crystals to gamble from time to time is okay, but real money? No thanks.


    Ok but this is a thread about something people might actually buy.
  • NotRealUltra's avatar
    NotRealUltra
    Seasoned Newcomer
    "GegeGerard24;c-2401416" wrote:
    "Yuejandan52;d-261265" wrote:

    How about just being clear in what you are actually selling?


    I would like to add...
    Please dont sell items by using probability...like this...

    Please just sell a fixed amount of shard/item etc.
    I wouldnt want to spend 1,8k crystal for 4x 10 shards.




    could be 4x 10
    could be 4x 100
  • "SlipperyPete;c-2401472" wrote:
    Similar to how the Dr. Aphra Chase Park is worded.

    Card 2: Drops shards with a 15% chance for 5, 7% chance for 10, 2% chance for 15, 1% chance for 20.

    Yes it adds up to 25% and there's four characters which would equal 100%, but you're guaranteed only one of those characters so shouldn't the odds just total to 100%? Reading 60%, 28%, 8%, 4%?


    They do.
  • "MrRandyWatson;c-2401586" wrote:
    "nfidel2k;c-2401500" wrote:
    "SlipperyPete;c-2401472" wrote:
    Similar to how the Dr. Aphra Chase Park is worded.

    Card 2: Drops shards with a 15% chance for 5, 7% chance for 10, 2% chance for 15, 1% chance for 20.

    Yes it adds up to 25% and there's four characters which would equal 100%, but you're guaranteed only one of those characters so shouldn't the odds just total to 100%? Reading 60%, 28%, 8%, 4%?


    They do.


    Are the 4 pulls/card independent events? IE: can you pull 20 shards 4 times?
    If the answer is yes, then then the probabilities are published in a way that is misleading or incorrect.
    If you can only pull one 20 shard in total on 4 cards then that should be mentioned and the probabilities updated to show that.

    The odds are combined so that it only requires one RNG roll. Four characters, 25% per character, 100% chance.
  • As F2P, I don't need to waste my time looking at all these "great" offers. Using reasonable amount of crystals to gamble from time to time is okay, but real money? No thanks.
  • DarthJobbie's avatar
    DarthJobbie
    Rising Adventurer
    I was threatened with bans on challenging the pack probabilities lol.

    Would urge everyone to stay away from unless happy to pay over the odds for less. At least they now add the pack probabilities for people to inform themselves that they will likely get the lesser of the roll.
  • Screerider's avatar
    Screerider
    Seasoned Scout
    "Yuejandan52;d-261265" wrote:
    I completely understand why a company would want to capitalize on the ambiguity of language to maximize its profits, but doing so doesn't build trust with consumers.



    Yes, you do include "the materials you need to reach Relic 3!," and you don't write that they are "all of the materials you need to reach Relic 3!," so 'buyer beware.' But you are using the interpretive flexibility of the language in the hopes that players will then buy the pack twice to get all of the materials needed to bring a character to Relic 3 (each pack has half the materials needed, except the fragmented and incomplete signal data, which is a little more than half). Such acts in advertising, though, don't foster trust in a company and its practices.

    How about just being clear in what you are actually selling?

    Yeah, that's particularly head-scratching. To go from R2 to R3, they got the number of Bronzium Wirings and Fragmented Signal Data right, but they overshot Carbonite Circuit Boards by 20, and shorted Chromium Transistors by 10 and Incomplete Signal Data by 5.