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3 years ago

Unpopular opinion on the new GAC System

As the title would suggest, I am one of the very few people that finds the new GAC System much more fair. I think the new system is brilliant in terms of fairness of Crystal rewards and in general eve...

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ccmoose

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3 years ago

It would do that, but it goes too far, imo, to removing competitive balance. If they only do it for Aurodium and lower, whatever, don't really care.

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That said, I do have one minor suggestion that I think would improve the enjoyment aspect of the new System on top of the Improvements it has already made towards Fairness of Rewards.

Currently, I haven't noticed any pattern when it comes to grouping people of the same Skill Rating in a GAC Bracket (The groups of 8 players, that get made three times per GAC Season)

If the developers could add an intermediate step before the grouping - To sort all players of the same Skill rating by GP (Galactic Power). What this will achieve is:

- Skilled players with lower GP would more often get matched with other skilled players with lower GP
- Inactive players with higher GP would more often get matched with other Inactive players with higher GP

In general, I believe this tweak should be quite easy to do for the developers. And it will increase the Fun aspect of GAC, without decreasing the Fairness of Rewards aspect. Let me know what you guys think :smile:

Note: As a developer myself, that intermediate step could be made even better, by a more sophisticated algorithm to sort by a summary of GP of the top *NUMBER OF CHARACTERS BASED ON A DIVISION/LEAGUE*. Thus achieving even better grouping for very skilled players that are very careful with their resource management. But... this improvement will have very minimal effect for the playerbase as whole, so I understand if the developers are too busy for this one.","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2022-11-23T03:56:18.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:pvp","text":"pvp","time":"2016-05-17T12:58:15.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4012503_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1914},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"As the title would suggest, I am one of the very few people that finds the new GAC System much more fair. I think the new system is brilliant in terms of fairness of Crystal rewards and in general everyone outside of Kyber 1 would get roughly 50/50 Win/Loss rate if they participate in GAC regularly.

That said, I do have one minor suggestion that I think would improve the enjoyment aspect of the new System on top of the Improvements it has already made towards Fairness of Rewards.

Currently, I haven't noticed any pattern when it comes to grouping people of the same Skill Rating in a GAC Bracket (The groups of 8 players, that get made three times per GAC Season)

If the developers could add an intermediate step before the grouping - To sort all players of the same Skill rating by GP (Galactic Power). What this will achieve is:

- Skilled players with lower GP would more often get matched with other skilled players with lower GP
- Inactive players with higher GP would more often get matched with other Inactive players with higher GP

In general, I believe this tweak should be quite easy to do for the developers. And it will increase the Fun aspect of GAC, without decreasing the Fairness of Rewards aspect. Let me know what you guys think :smile:

Note: As a developer myself, that intermediate step could be made even better, by a more sophisticated algorithm to sort by a summary of GP of the top *NUMBER OF CHARACTERS BASED ON A DIVISION/LEAGUE*. Thus achieving even better grouping for very skilled players that are very careful with their resource management. But... this improvement will have very minimal effect for the playerbase as whole, so I understand if the developers are too busy for this one."},"Conversation:conversation:4012503":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:4012503","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4012503"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2022-11-29T16:10:40.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2022-11-29T16:10:40.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":45,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4012503":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4012503","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:4012503_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:4012503_1","lastEditTime":"2022-11-23T03:56:18.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4012513":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:4012513","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4012503"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:145690"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":4012513,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Unpopular opinion on the new GAC System","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4012513"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4012503"},"body":"It would do that, but it goes too far, imo, to removing competitive balance. If they only do it for Aurodium and lower, whatever, don't really care.","body@stringLength":"148","rawBody":"It would do that, but it goes too far, imo, to removing competitive balance. 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