Unpopular Opinion Time: Using the "Escape Strategy" (Zylo, Zavage, CLS)

"Varlie;c-1227220" wrote:
Our guild has a strict one attack only per phase so the retreat option was never a big issue for us. If they do implement a restriction, it should be one retreat per phase rule, not a per raid. CLS is very handy in multiple phases so if you are lucky enough to use him and have him escape in P1, I would like to be able to do that in P2, P3, and P4.

"Broxxor;d-127383" wrote:
In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far.

I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it seems like this is NOT what the developers intended. This misuse of the retreat function of the game should be patched out. And there's a simple solution in my mind:

MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN ONLY RETREAT ONCE PER CHARACTER FOR THE RAID.

That solves everything and still allows the retreat function to serve it's normal and useful purposes.

I think the HAAT was partially ruined by people exploiting this feature in the game. It promoted a lack of development on rosters for guilds relying on these methods to complete the raid and has, in my opinion, put the game in a state where people aren't even trying anymore.

If you remove the challenge from something, then it takes the fun out of it. When I see guilds recruiting or posting about their guild and saying they have the "HAAT on farm" and that they use Zylo to do P1 and Zavage to do p3 - it really shows how much the HAAT raid has fallen into nothingness imo. To me, those aren't HAAT ready guilds. Rather, they're guilds who are exploiting the game to get an advantage when they otherwise couldn't - which, to me, is cheating.

"Mihai29;c-1227238" wrote:

"Broxxor;d-127383" wrote:
In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far.

I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it seems like this is NOT what the developers intended. This misuse of the retreat function of the game should be patched out. And there's a simple solution in my mind:

MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN ONLY RETREAT ONCE PER CHARACTER FOR THE RAID.

That solves everything and still allows the retreat function to serve it's normal and useful purposes.

I think the HAAT was partially ruined by people exploiting this feature in the game. It promoted a lack of development on rosters for guilds relying on these methods to complete the raid and has, in my opinion, put the game in a state where people aren't even trying anymore.

If you remove the challenge from something, then it takes the fun out of it. When I see guilds recruiting or posting about their guild and saying they have the "HAAT on farm" and that they use Zylo to do P1 and Zavage to do p3 - it really shows how much the HAAT raid has fallen into nothingness imo. To me, those aren't HAAT ready guilds. Rather, they're guilds who are exploiting the game to get an advantage when they otherwise couldn't - which, to me, is cheating.

Let me guess....someone solo p1 with Savage and you ranked 4th in raid because he done more damage then you :D

"Nikoms565;c-1227239" wrote:
There is one "big picture" point that is being completely missed in the OP. Most guilds that have multiple players with Zeta Kylo (or Zavage or CLS) at 7* and max gear can easily farm HAAT anyway. The ability to retreat multiple times for 99% of the guilds that can, is completely irrelevant. At best, they use it as a QOL time saver. That's all.

That's why that functionality hasn't been "fixed". It would change virtually nothing. But feel free to complain about imagined advantages that don't really exist.

"lisztophobia;c-1227237" wrote:

"Broxxor;c-1227235" wrote:
There's a retreat function in the game (not the menu). It was never intended to go into a phase, tickle the balls of Greivous, retreat, come back and tickle again, and repeat until he's so bruised that he gets an infection and dies.

That's not using the in-game tactics and strategy. That's exploiting an oversight in the game mechanics and should have been fixed a long time ago, imo.

It's called "Escape." The ability that allows your character to survive and post a damage score.

"Retreat" is the option under the cog wheel icon (upper left corner of the screen) where you abandon the fight without posting any damage, resetting all deaths and cooldowns to what they were before you entered the battle.

"Dayma;c-1227247" wrote:
Well, who cares now ?
Everything can be done SOLO without retreat anyway, Thanks to CLS.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1223164#Comment_1223164

"Broxxor;c-1227244" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1227239" wrote:
There is one "big picture" point that is being completely missed in the OP. Most guilds that have multiple players with Zeta Kylo (or Zavage or CLS) at 7* and max gear can easily farm HAAT anyway. The ability to retreat multiple times for 99% of the guilds that can, is completely irrelevant. At best, they use it as a QOL time saver. That's all.

That's why that functionality hasn't been "fixed". It would change virtually nothing. But feel free to complain about imagined advantages that don't really exist.

I disagree.

I'd say most of the guilds that use this feature are using it to beat a phase they a) otherwise couldn't beat or b) could beat but would be left bare for other phases.