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ChiizuLamb's avatar
8 years ago

Unpopular Opinion Time: Using the "Escape Strategy" (Zylo, Zavage, CLS)

In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far.

I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it seems like this is NOT what the developers intended. This misuse of the escape function of the game should be patched out. And there's a simple solution in my mind:

MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN ONLY ESCAPE ONCE PER CHARACTER FOR THE RAID.

That solves everything and still allows the retreat function to serve it's normal and useful purposes.

I think the HAAT was partially ruined by people exploiting this feature in the game. It promoted a lack of development on rosters for guilds relying on these methods to complete the raid and has, in my opinion, put the game in a state where people aren't even trying anymore.

If you remove the challenge from something, then it takes the fun out of it. When I see guilds recruiting or posting about their guild and saying they have the "HAAT on farm" and that they use Zylo to do P1 and Zavage to do p3 - it really shows how much the HAAT raid has fallen into nothingness imo. To me, those aren't HAAT ready guilds. Rather, they're guilds who are exploiting the game to get an advantage when they otherwise couldn't - which, to me, is cheating.

16 Replies

  • "Broxxor;c-1227244" wrote:
    There's nothing time saving about using Zylo in P1 over - say - someone using the Kenobi Sink or an IGD Jedi counter team. It takes significantly longer.


    Well, devil's advocate here but how do you propose guilds new to haat get a Kenobi sink up and running?

    I think the main advantage to zylo over Kenobi is you don't require the reward for completing haat 50 times in order to complete haat the first 50 times if you use zylo.

  • "Broxxor;c-1227250" wrote:
    "Dayma;c-1227247" wrote:
    Well, who cares now ?
    Everything can be done SOLO without retreat anyway, Thanks to CLS.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1223164#Comment_1223164


    I'm perfectly fine with CLS "legit" solos. That's a character that people can use to do things without exploiting an in-game mechanic.


    I don't know what's worse between exploits and power creep tbh.

    One could say exploits solve partially unbalanced difficulty while power creep usually breaks the global game balance and thus pretty much kills all the fun.

    It works both way. ^ ^
  • "Broxxor;c-1227250" wrote:
    "Dayma;c-1227247" wrote:
    Well, who cares now ?
    Everything can be done SOLO without retreat anyway, Thanks to CLS.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1223164#Comment_1223164


    I'm perfectly fine with CLS "legit" solos. That's a character that people can use to do things without exploiting an in-game mechanic.


    By "exploiting" you mean following the rules? Casting shade on people for following the rules is silly.

    And the idea that it's unintended is nonsense. The devs commented on Zylo refreshing the retreat function, then went in and made a fix to prevent it from refreshing every turn. They fixed the Zader bug. They fixed Nutinni. But knowing full well that some toons who can regenerate health/protection and can solo P1 with enough time and retreats, what did they do? They added more who can do it even better. Zylo still can, it just takes a while now due to the escape mechanic working correctly. Zavage can. Thrawn can. And Luke can even better.

    You are being needlessly insulting, and overly dramatic in accusing people of unethical behavior for playing the game exactly as it is designed. When you learn the rules of a system, and figure out an efficient/effective solution it's called strategy.

    You are also making assumptions about the intentions of people you've never met based on no evidence. In fact, the devs popped the hood on the Zylo bug, and fixed it, but left it so that he and multiple other characters can still solo with retreats, said nothing to discourage people from doing so, and added more characters who can do it faster/better. I would say the evidence points to it being an acceptable, and intended behavior.

    I'd say your opinion doesn't hold water. I'm glad other players can get through raids with this strategy, and that's coming from someone who has never done it personally.
  • Cls, Han, R2 solo P1 easily. They didn't even have to nerf Zylo cause as soon as damage post is open people are posting three character no escape Solos. They sure love to "fix" things the darkside can do while releasing lightside toons that make a joke of the fact they even bothered.