Vulture droids not fixed?

something is definitely wrong with vulture droids. a number of times now i had multiple vulture droids, no debuffs, and buzz droids on target, yet no assists when i attack. seems like the "fix" needs to be fixed.

Let's start the investigation!

"CCyrilS;c-2346423" wrote:

"Whatelse73;c-2346384" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2346365" wrote:

"Whatelse73;c-2346356" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2346268" wrote:

"ImaSmakya;c-2346267" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2346264" wrote:
agree on the part about it being confusing and should be in the kit wording

if you really think its not working right then please track your data

Right, cuz anecdotal data based on one persons experience always goes over well on this forum.

tracked data is the opposite of anecdotal

one person's "data" in millions of people is also anecdotal.

how many people with data would you accept

It's not what I would accept, it's what the forums would accept, which was the original point Imasmakya was making.

You're speaking for the entire forums, but you are basing it on your anecdotal perception of it. Your sample size is too small, and therefore invalid.

Huh?

"Darth_DeVito;c-2346629" wrote:
It's definitely FUBAR. I kept Executor for offense this GAC because I expected the Malevolence counter to be less reliable due to the Exe AI changes, and now I just lost with Malev against Negotiator. Malev is completely broken. I didn't see single assist from the vultures throughout the entire battle. Methinks a makegood is in order since this will likely cost me the win.

Exactly my experience. My Mal normally tears through a Neg battle with Asokha/JMK and A N Other. Zero assists from the VD that is called when yours dies. Glad I had the Neg to tidy up.

To add to the anecdotal evidence, I've noticed that my vultures are assisting less (I only battle mal against neg). I haven't been checking when the vultures came in who haven't been assisting

Would love to add more input to your data collection. Not feeling like a fix, feeling more like a bug. That 70% assist that is hidden in some poorly placed location found only within the battle is working 0% of the time once the players Vulture Droid dies off and is replaced with a new one.

"mariogsh;c-2347531" wrote:
Just remember the unending loyalty bug was alive for 2 years, it just got fixed when Executor came around, fun fact lol

Hope this Male bug gets fixed, because IT EXISTS

This bug has always existed. They just change the behavior every time they claim they fix it.

Part of the confusion is that the buzz droid visual bug is back. Just because a unit has the icon, doesn't mean they actually have buzz droids.

"DarjeloSalas;c-2347548" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347547" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2347545" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347544" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347541" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347532" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347531" wrote:
Just remember the unending loyalty bug was alive for 2 years, it just got fixed when Executor came around, fun fact lol

Hope this Male bug gets fixed, because IT EXISTS

This bug has always existed. They just change the behavior every time they claim they fix it.

Part of the confusion is that the buzz droid visual bug is back. Just because a unit has the icon, doesn't mean they actually have buzz droids.

Yeah, I know the visual bug too, and this is new

When the "revived" player's vulture gets on the field and another vultures get summoned, this "revived" vulture does NEVER get called to assist

No, it's not bad RNG, it just never called to assist, I saw all the other vultures assist at least once on the battle (even the original vulture did) but the revived one didn't

I know they're separate bugs, but the visual bug makes it harder to identify when the assist bug is happening. And the assist bug is not actually new. It's never worked right, and they've tried to make it work right for years.

what was the problem before the last update though

Just what it said in the update notes: VD's weren't always (ever?) assisting other VD's. Also, not that they said anything about it, but summoned VD's were always assisting real units. While that's what we want to happen, it's not what the kit says should happen.

But they shouldn’t always assist.

If it wasn't bugged they wouldn't have tried to fix it?

"DarjeloSalas;c-2347548" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347547" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2347545" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347544" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347541" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347532" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347531" wrote:
Just remember the unending loyalty bug was alive for 2 years, it just got fixed when Executor came around, fun fact lol

Hope this Male bug gets fixed, because IT EXISTS

This bug has always existed. They just change the behavior every time they claim they fix it.

Part of the confusion is that the buzz droid visual bug is back. Just because a unit has the icon, doesn't mean they actually have buzz droids.

Yeah, I know the visual bug too, and this is new

When the "revived" player's vulture gets on the field and another vultures get summoned, this "revived" vulture does NEVER get called to assist

No, it's not bad RNG, it just never called to assist, I saw all the other vultures assist at least once on the battle (even the original vulture did) but the revived one didn't

I know they're separate bugs, but the visual bug makes it harder to identify when the assist bug is happening. And the assist bug is not actually new. It's never worked right, and they've tried to make it work right for years.

what was the problem before the last update though

Just what it said in the update notes: VD's weren't always (ever?) assisting other VD's. Also, not that they said anything about it, but summoned VD's were always assisting real units. While that's what we want to happen, it's not what the kit says should happen.

But they shouldn’t always assist.

… is that not what StarSon said?

"DarjeloSalas;c-2347563" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2347560" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2347548" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347547" wrote:

"24_Tuesdays;c-2347545" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347544" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347541" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2347532" wrote:

"mariogsh;c-2347531" wrote:
Just remember the unending loyalty bug was alive for 2 years, it just got fixed when Executor came around, fun fact lol

Hope this Male bug gets fixed, because IT EXISTS

This bug has always existed. They just change the behavior every time they claim they fix it.

Part of the confusion is that the buzz droid visual bug is back. Just because a unit has the icon, doesn't mean they actually have buzz droids.

Yeah, I know the visual bug too, and this is new

When the "revived" player's vulture gets on the field and another vultures get summoned, this "revived" vulture does NEVER get called to assist

No, it's not bad RNG, it just never called to assist, I saw all the other vultures assist at least once on the battle (even the original vulture did) but the revived one didn't

I know they're separate bugs, but the visual bug makes it harder to identify when the assist bug is happening. And the assist bug is not actually new. It's never worked right, and they've tried to make it work right for years.

what was the problem before the last update though

Just what it said in the update notes: VD's weren't always (ever?) assisting other VD's. Also, not that they said anything about it, but summoned VD's were always assisting real units. While that's what we want to happen, it's not what the kit says should happen.

But they shouldn’t always assist.

… is that not what StarSon said?

Hard to tell. StarSon said:

"StarSon;c-2347544" wrote:

And the assist bug is not actually new. It's never worked right, and they've tried to make it work right for years.

And then

"StarSon;c-2347547" wrote:
VD's weren't always (ever?) assisting other VD's.

Which confused me. The VDs (other than your own original unit) shouldn’t always have assisted, so I’m not sure what he meant by the bug not being new and it never working right.

Also, not that they said anything about it, but summoned VD's were always assisting real units. While that's what we want to happen, it's not what the kit says should happen.

Reading this part makes me think he’s describing a bug I wasn’t aware of myself. But there are more bugs than one man can keep track of right now!

Edit: fixed quote layering mishap.

Sorry, I meant the VD's weren't always assisting when they should be. Didn't really realize the update fixed only your own. But even at 70% they were just not assisting summons at one point. Ultimately my point was just that it's never been right.

And yes, that last bit is a bug that I never really saw people talk about. But VD's would 100% of the time assist a real unit, even though the summons only had a 70% chance to do so.