What are CG's Goals?

"LinkDonnovan;d-174786" wrote:
I mean this question honestly. Obviously the main goal is to make money, but what else?

Create fun and engaging content?
How can this be with the STR disaster that is (near) universally hated.

Create an environment of communication with devs and the community with the goal of finding out what keeps people coming back?
You hired a community manager that, despie his title, doesnt really communicate. Even on threads specifically asking for feedback. Topics go months with no responses. When the player base asks for something you do literally the opposite. (Less ships RNG, STR rewards etc) You are apparently dedicating more time to Reddit because you cant filter there, but still, these are the official forums.


To create a diverse game with multiple areas of engaging content?
Ships 2.0 seems to be quite the failure, at least based on the feedback. I know, I know you have some measureables that show its amazing, but the community has already pointed out the errors in your data

Cultivate a community encouraging teamwork and friendship?
Again STR. The breaker of guilds and the seperator of power.


So if we cant talk about anything else, can we talk about what your goals are, and maybe we can help you get there? And at the same time make a game that is more balanced and enjoyable?

Frustrate the player base and induce rage spending probably. After all what have they been doing? Releasing new things every few weeks so u can never catch up.

Oh u unlocked traya? Here’s g12+ so u cant beat the top in arena still - that is unless u buy these shiny crystals for more g12 gear to become a sith smiter. Oh but catch is g12+ drops are still rng - u might just get 0 fully crafted pieces while the rest of ur shard gets 1 every raid, how fun.

Can’t say it isn’t working though. I’m steadily depleting my stash of arena winnings ever since hsr came out, and even more so with the g12+ gear.

My guild has been affected by STR as well. We were not one of the top guilds which collected the strongest players from next tier...so we were one of the feeder guilds. Fortunately most of our members remained and are holding their heads high while mentoring the not quite ready for heroic portion of the guild. We don't have Traya and we don't have G12.5 pieces and we are increasingly less relevant in our arena shards - but their is some honour there and we are having as much fun as the day before this stuff dropped.

It feels like one of the goals was to move players into distinct tiers - the very best players will be playing Heroic and facing each other in TWs. This has a positive effect on the lower tiers of TWs, we don't see 10 ridiculous players (and scrubs) building a wall that can't be bested by a guild of 50 relatively equal players amounting to the same GP.
It is unfortunate that the STR is a bit of a slog for some guilds who aren't at heroic yet- but if they are gearing the right teams, watching videos, and sharing strategies they will keep moving up ranks.
The T6 was a slog for us until about 2 weeks ago, now it's cake...and heroic is waiting for us this weekend - and it feels really good. I regret nothing.

I am glad that this content has taken some time. If everything were easy and beatable day one I would just be playing this game to click JOIN and SIM, may as well be playing Adventure Capitalist...

...so...frustrations noted...it's worth it to find a group of like powered individuals and dig in wherever you are to get better.

Annoy the playerbase as much as possible, man the harpoons and keep the whales on the hook then sunset the game once the money starts drying up and/or the whales have swam to more fertile games.

I even saw one youtuber justify spending 60 buckaroos on a toon for this game with "it's 60 bucks I would have spent on a videogame anyway". Don't need to point the farcical nature of that comment do I.

EA are going to EA though. Another thing they've ruined. Mobile gaming had potential before the evil empires got their greasy mits on it.

Could be worse, it could be MSF.

With regards to communication, it's too late for that now IMO. Far too much bad blood in the playerbase at this point, especially considering the history they have on this very forum.

"LinkDonnovan;d-174786" wrote:

Ships 2.0 seems to be quite the failure

I'm sorry, but this only applies to low level / low gear fleets.
However, if your fleet is (pretty much) maxed, it's not only fun, the fights do indeed get shorter.
Only very rarely does a ship fight break the 2min barrier.
The only ship fight I lost in the last 2 weeks was today, when my wife needed help, and I only came back too late.

I'm using a (not even maxed) Tarkin led fleet of TIE Fighter, Biggs, KRU with Vader (maxed), Boba, Reaper, Scimitar reinforcements (of which most of the time only Vader comes into play).

Ships 2.0 is slighlty more fun than 1.0 and folks haven't tapped into all of the ship abilities yet, still pretty similar at the top of the shards.
And of course I don't mind the extra farming opportunities from the ships table.

"SoylentGreen;c-1592541" wrote:

"LinkDonnovan;d-174786" wrote:

Ships 2.0 seems to be quite the failure

I'm sorry, but this only applies to low level / low gear fleets.
However, if your fleet is (pretty much) maxed, it's not only fun, the fights do indeed get shorter.
Only very rarely does a ship fight break the 2min barrier.
The only ship fight I lost in the last 2 weeks was today, when my wife needed help, and I only came back too late.

I'm using a (not even maxed) Tarkin led fleet of TIE Fighter, Biggs, KRU with Vader (maxed), Boba, Reaper, Scimitar reinforcements (of which most of the time only Vader comes into play).

Many people with strong ships would disagree that ships 2.0 is fun, they would say it’s entirely up to RNG if you win or not. Check out the giant ships 2.0 megathread if you don’t believe me.

Shareholder value.

I love Ships 2.0. That’s coming from a top 5 fleet arena player who dropped after they nerfed my best ships. However Everyone having thrawn with the same exact starting ships was bad. Now it’s more of a Rock Paper Scissors and there is a lot more variety of top ships.

"SoylentGreen;c-1592541" wrote:

"LinkDonnovan;d-174786" wrote:

Ships 2.0 seems to be quite the failure

I'm sorry, but this only applies to low level / low gear fleets.
However, if your fleet is (pretty much) maxed, it's not only fun, the fights do indeed get shorter.
Only very rarely does a ship fight break the 2min barrier.
The only ship fight I lost in the last 2 weeks was today, when my wife needed help, and I only came back too late.

I'm using a (not even maxed) Tarkin led fleet of TIE Fighter, Biggs, KRU with Vader (maxed), Boba, Reaper, Scimitar reinforcements (of which most of the time only Vader comes into play).

I would reference the 2x ships 2.0 topics on the main page. Its great if your individual experience has been positive, but the objective data contained in those topics show it to be a failure. Based on hundreds (thousands if you include reddit) of individual players feedback.

My individual fleet is near max and my experience would mirror that of most of the community. Pure RNG. First target lock wins in most cases. But if its working for you, thats great, mean it sincerely, but it doesnt echo the community as a whole.

That being said, I dont really want this topic to turn into another ship only topic. There are already 2 for that.

Who said the STR is universally hated? I hear this as a sense of entitlement where everyone thinks they should be handed equal rewards.

Any game where long term development is a factor isn't going to allow for that.

The STR is incredibly well designed content. It has some depth and complexity, while allowing for some pretty creative teams.

Just because something is hard doesn't make it hated or stupid. Not everyone belongs at the top of their arena shard.

I'd flip it around and ask what the player's goals are. This game gives you the choice. If you expect to be able to rank 1 in arena every day, and get the top rewards from the games hardest content - you'll need to plan and spend accordingly. Otherwise find a way to maximize your full potential and be happy with the progress that affords you. Neither of those things are something you're entitled to. CG's is giving you that choice.

This game isn't perfect, and I've yet to find one that is - but there is sure a lot to enjoy and fun to be had.