It's not nice to criticize something without trying it, but since the detailed description has been published, there are lot of things to discuss.So...seriously. Who invented this new raid? Who would have thought that this will be exciting and interesting? Based on the description, it seems to me that it will be extremely complicated and extremely monotonous at the same time.When CG announced the shiny new Endor raid, I thought there would be 3-4 tiers, missions and locations from the Jedi movie. For example, yes, one of these could be the speeder bike scene, then e.g. the siege of the bunker and finally the main boss fight, against an AT-ST. Instead, I now feel like I accidentally find myself at a math conference where I don't understand anything, but I don't care neither.Why did I develop these excellent characters if I can't use their abilities and their effectiveness depends only on their stats?Why do I have to read 5 pages to even understand the mechanics of how a raid works, when visually all that happens is 3 bikers fighting 2 other bikers?Why do I have to watch the same rolling landscape background for 8 battles when RoTJ is full of beautiful locations and scenes on Endor alone?CG, where is the interesting part in this new raid? Do you think the part about farming a bunch of accuracy mods is interesting and exciting? Or do you think that we will love when the whole raid looks like a big math thesis?I am very, very disappointed and our next 1 year is not looking very good at all in terms of raids!

Krayt raid is stupid boring so i dont see s big difference with this one but i will wait to judge it until it is out.

This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams. The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent.

"Drathuk916;c-2448536" wrote:This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams. The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent. Maybe that is without the difficulty multiplayer.

"Fellah;c-2448517" wrote:Haters gonna hate.Where did you see that I hate it?I've been playing this game every day since 2016. During these years I've found a lot of thing exciting and few things bored or bad in it. So far nobody cares this part. And now comes what is perhaps more interesting: the first three raids were very well planned. We played with them for years before we got bored of them, then they became simable or easily auto playable. We got bored of the dragon raid in a few months. Now, if this Endor raid is going to be about what we see in Leia Tier 5, then we got a big problem. We'll probably get bored in a few weeks in terms of raid.So I'm not criticizing the game because I hate it, but because I quite like it and I don't want it to become boring and burned out. And I definitely don't want it to become a math calculation task without any fun.

Where is the interesting part of the new raid?

tvsfrink
2 years ago
"Jacgul;c-2449695" wrote:
Yeah, I've seen some gameplay of it. Quite frankly, it looks like garbage. It's no longer SWGOH, it's an arcade game like the old death star trench run. If I wanted to play that, I'd play that. However, even worse is how lazy it is. Limited units and factions, and one of these factions is fighting itself because?
The messed up krayt with their garbage rewards. They've somehow outdone themselves with this one.

What garbage rewards?

Krayt rewards ended up way better than the old system.
Persimius
Rising Scout
2 years ago
"Olderaan;c-2449729" wrote:
Wondering which would be more difficult for CG now: a) to accept that probably many people will spend the next 9 months completely uninterested for the new raid with auto matches, or b) to admit that this new raid is simply a huge mistake and was a waste of giving money to develop.
Or c) in such a CG's way they completely ignore the complaints and continue counting their money in radio silence.

Why do you think they'll do anything other than just start working on the next raid? They already said it'll only be the featured raid for 8-9 months, no reason for them to worry so much about it now.
Maiden6666_4334
2 years ago
@CG_Tusken_Meathead anything to say about this?
Whatelse73
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
The raid isn't a money maker for them, only datacrons are. That's where most of their focus appears to be recently. So don't expect anything to get too fancy, unless they can tie datacrons to it somehow.

They expect us to move mods every time we do a raid? that ain't happening at this point. I already do that too much as it is for other events.

Ahnald's video was pretty detailed and gave a lot of interesting points about it. This should be a "phase 1" or "Phase X" of a real raid, not the whole thing.

At least they'll dump out a new boring raid in 6 months?
RagingMonkey057
2 years ago
"Haugs;c-2449804" wrote:
"herd_nerfer;c-2449803" wrote:
"Haugs;c-2449797" wrote:
"herd_nerfer;c-2449796" wrote:
"Haugs;c-2449794" wrote:
"herd_nerfer;c-2449743" wrote:
"Whatelse73;c-2449738" wrote:
The raid isn't a money maker for them, only datacrons are. That's where most of their focus appears to be recently. So don't expect anything to get too fancy, unless they can tie datacrons to it somehow.

They expect us to move mods every time we do a raid? that ain't happening at this point. I already do that too much as it is for other events.

Ahnald's video was pretty detailed and gave a lot of interesting points about it. This should be a "phase 1" or "Phase X" of a real raid, not the whole thing.

At least they'll dump out a new boring raid in 6 months?

With regard to the raid specifically - I can auto all 8 teams and collect rewards? Sign me up.

This is such a terrible take. “Who cares about quality, design, creativity, etc etc, if I can just press auto to bypass developer incompetence?”

That's not even remotely what that means. It means I can save a lot of time and and effort and still get my rewards - to me that's a win. Maybe you enjoy fighting RNG and the tedium of moving mods around. Doing that once or twice is novel and interesting. Doing it for the next 8-9 months isn't appealing. It quickly becomes laborious and uninteresting to me. If you feel differently, that's fine, but kindly don't put words in my mouth - please.

in context, it’s a dismissal of everything wrong with the raid. No design choice made related to this raid has been a good one.

Pressing auto does not dismiss how disappointing this raid is, how out of touch the developers are with what constitutes fun gameplay, and how sad the reality is that, without changes, this is what our raid experience is going to be for nine months.

“I can auto? Sign me up”, is not exactly the feedback players should be giving this early in the raid life cycle.

. I realize that doesn't fit into your box of what "feedback players should be giving". Are people only allowed to be angry here? Does it bother you that I'm not angry?

I think you spend too much time in these forums

We can certainly agree on that. Bad habits are the hardest to kick.
MasterSeedy
Rising Ace
2 years ago
I disagree. While there is some new content in ROTE, much of which is still inaccessible to a majority of players and will be for a long time(looking at you R9's) Im not comparing ROTE to GEOTB, Im saying that there is not much new in ROTE.

This is ... fair. I mean, I don't really see it that way because I see new combinations of familiar elements to be "new", but I definitely see how people could see it that way.

I will point out that there are some cool new adversaries (Pykes, as I mentioned, Purge Troopers, etc.) and that saying that you won't access something for quite some time (r9 planets) also comes with the possibility that you can control your ability to access new content by focussing on something other than the latest GL chase. Sure, maybe a lot of people don't want to r8 Phoenix, but that terrible squad is completely transformed by CapRex, and if you want to relic them up they can do a lot of damage in Mixed r5/r6/r7 worlds on your way to using them in totally new r8 missions.

5xr8 is an effort, I admit, but it's an effort that you can choose to make or not. Same with Zeffo and Cere/JKCK.

Accessing a new battle or even a new zone (planet in ROTE, zone in GeoTB) is more under your control now than it ever has been. Don't like r8 Phoenix? What about r8 for your NS and the Haven battle? Would you rather take some unused Jedi or Qi'ra and L3 to r5 to open up that new mixed battle? Your choice!

Anyway, you have a right to feel however you feel. And I can hear you saying that ROTE is pulling from a lot of places, but that's still pulling from existing pieces rather than creating totally new ones. I just have a more optimistic take because I like that there are multiple opportunities to grow your roster and then use them. In the past things were so focussed on what CG wanted you to do. You have to get GLO for the new raid, etc. Now you can r6 your Geos or Aphra or r8 your Phoenix or NS or bring along some mostly useless smugglers and Jedi, and you can get rewarded for ANY of those things, not only the one CG is pushing this month.

I like that.
Maiden6666_4334
2 years ago
lol not even the troll mods are talkin about this
Mazsola77
2 years ago
One of my post is gone here. Is it under moderation or something?
RagingMonkey057
2 years ago
"Olderaan;c-2450023" wrote:
One of my post is gone here. Is it under moderation or something?

Sometimes when you edit a post, or post "too often" in a short amount of time, the post gets auto-routed to the spam filter. Really annoying when that happens.
Mazsola77
2 years ago
"herd_nerfer;c-2450026" wrote:
"Olderaan;c-2450023" wrote:
One of my post is gone here. Is it under moderation or something?

Sometimes when you edit a post, or post "too often" in a short amount of time, the post gets auto-routed to the spam filter. Really annoying when that happens.

Thank you the info. And can I find the spam container, or this is just a moderator privilege?