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CaiaphasDomo's avatar
7 years ago

Why does GMYoda only get one g12+ piece of gear?

... because the other one, with physical damage, is about as useful as tits on a bull.

I even checked Thrawn, Talzin... but looks like only GMYoda got shafted (from what I can see so far)
  • "Genpaku408;c-1588079" wrote:


    "JacenRoe;c-1588042" wrote:
    "Princerhaegar04;c-1587966" wrote:
    "JacenRoe;c-1587925" wrote:
    "Caiaphas;c-1587869" wrote:
    There is useless gear that is easy to obtain, and then there is g12+ useless gear that can only be obtained in the Heroic Sith raid with the recent changes in rewards. Only GMY has one of those bits of useless gear. There is a bit of a difference...

    edit: and no, @JacenRoe , the piece in question does not give him Speed, Health, and Armour. That would be the GOOD piece of gear that he DOES NOT get. the piece in question gives him speed (they all do), Agility (which is not his stat), physical damage (which he does not do), and physical crit rating (which is also useless)

    If it was a mk12 Fusion Furnace, there would be no issue, as that piece gives Health, Armour, Resistance and Speed. That is all good.


    Just to verify, we are talking about Grand Master Yoda, and we are also talking about his MK 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens right? If so here is a link to the page for that gear piece on SWGOH.gg.

    https://swgoh.gg/db/gear/170/mk-12-armatek-holo-lens/

    It gives 6 speed, 2000 health, and it gives agility. Raising Yoda's agility increases his armor just in case you weren't aware. Look at his stats in the game. It will tell you that right there.


    Read at the start. You are clearly lost. If you read you will find your way. I'm not being condescending either.


    I did read. Did you? I'm just trying to triple check we're talking about the same thing because what he wrote is wrong. I provided a link to proof of the wrongness... if you bothered to look at it.




    Stats
    +40 Agility
    +2000 Health
    +100 Physical Damage <---
    +85 Physical Critical Rating <---
    +6 Speed

    its these stats i believe is what the issues here.

    I think below this is what people would have wanted to GMY

    Stats
    +40 Intelligence
    +3050 Health
    +50 Special Critical Rating <---
    +60 Resistance Penetration
    +6 Speed


    What you're saying has nothing to do with what I said. I agree that piece below would be better. GMY has one of each. But I was responding to someone saying that the inferior piece has no speed, health or armor. Only speed, agility, physical crit chance, and physical damage.

    You didn't inform me of anything, but at least thanks for showing that it does in fact have health. Also the agility increases armor. So the piece isn't optimal, but every single toon has multiple pieces top to bottom that give nothing useful. That's on purpose sometimes to get the toons useful stats exactly where you want them. Then pieces they don't need are thrown in as filler to finish off a level. At least Yoda needs 3 of the 5 stat boosts from that piece.
  • "Caiaphas;c-1588485" wrote:
    I also know that other toons get mostly-useless gear as well at different levels.

    The whole issue is minor.


    These were the two statements of significance that you made. The rest was noise.

    It's not an accident, and it's not changing. If you think it's terrible game design to have to use extremely hard to get gear as filler when you don't want a toons stats any higher then I agree with you. But that has always been the case. So insisting it's a mistake after you got a dev response (and also after 2.5 years of them doing exactly this same thing over and over and over) is just silly.

    You remember when Rancor raid gear was extremely rare, and valuable, and exclusive, took an eternity to get, and people were furious that they had to put a scanner that gives potency on Princess Leia when she has no debuffs? I do. Do you remember the forum rage thread about how people hated that? I do. Do you remember when EA/CG changed the gear system so that arbitrary nonsense like that doesn't happen anymore? No. Nobody does.

    If your point is the gear system is stupid, then you're right, and I agree. But this gear piece on Yoda is consistent with the stupid rules of the stupid system. You've been given a dev response, and perfectly logical reasons why it's that way, and there are 2.5 years of history of them sticking with this tangled rats nest of a system. It's not changing.
  • "evoluza;c-1588590" wrote:
    "JacenRoe;c-1588534" wrote:
    "Caiaphas;c-1588485" wrote:
    I also know that other toons get mostly-useless gear as well at different levels.

    The whole issue is minor.


    These were the two statements of significance that you made. The rest was noise.

    It's not an accident, and it's not changing. If you think it's terrible game design to have to use extremely hard to get gear as filler when you don't want a toons stats any higher then I agree with you. But that has always been the case. So insisting it's a mistake after you got a dev response (and also after 2.5 years of them doing exactly this same thing over and over and over) is just silly.

    You remember when Rancor raid gear was extremely rare, and valuable, and exclusive, took an eternity to get, and people were furious that they had to put a scanner that gives potency on Princess Leia when she has no debuffs? I do. Do you remember the forum rage thread about how people hated that? I do. Do you remember when EA/CG changed the gear system so that arbitrary nonsense like that doesn't happen anymore? No. Nobody does.

    If your point is the gear system is ****, then you're right, and I agree. But this gear piece on Yoda is consistent with the **** rules of the **** system. You've been given a dev response, and perfectly logical reasons why it's that way, and there are 2.5 years of history of them sticking with this tangled rats nest of a system. It's not changing.


    You don't get the point....
    They reworked him!
    Changed his attack multiplier up and now his doing great dmg.
    There is no need to balance him with physical dmg Gear!!1!
    The hole point is: one dev team reworked and the other team did the gear update. And I am sure thus two teams didn't talk with each other to tell them, yoda has no mare physical dmg attacks.
    Now they think we should think this is intended...


    The point is that he's already doing 70k attacks (we have video evidence on YouTube), so it's possible that this was done on purpose since they figured that was high enough. And after a dev says, 'no it's not changing', then we can all agree it's dumb. But it's dumb, and it's staying as is. So please continue to insist that it must be an accident.
  • "JacenRoe;c-1588673" wrote:
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    The point is that he's already doing 70k attacks (we have video evidence on YouTube), so it's possible that this was done on purpose since they figured that was high enough. And after a dev says, 'no it's not changing', then we can all agree it's dumb. But it's dumb, and it's staying as is. So please continue to insist that it must be an accident.


    ^ This is "just noise". Nobody is asking for him to have more damage.

    Considering that your mind is made up, I shouldn't even bother, but I will anyway.

    He is doing that damage because of the buffs. He shares those buffs with his team. Palp, Traya, Talzin, etc. etc. can all get the same buffs. But they don't get worthless gear, do they?

    Also, it is not about adding more damage to him. It's about removing the physical damage gear, which other toons need, and adding a Key Pad or Furnace instead ... neither of which add damage.

    Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You agree that it is wrong, so why are you fighting back so much? What do you think the major issue is with replacing the "wrong" gear with a Key Pad (the Furnace might give him too much overall health)? Is there even a minor issue with that? Or any issue at all? Or is sense just noise to you?