Top spenders in lower-medium tier HAAT guilds will be incentivized to leave their guilds. This will result in loss of comradery and loss of sense of community, which will result in ....(fill in the blank).I'm a relatively new player but a top 3 arena player, spent more on this game than 90 percent of people on this forum. I'm very unhappy with this situation. Unhappy players is bad for your business. Suggestions: players who complete a certain percentage of the new raid will all be guaranteed enough g12 gear that they will be able to stay competitive in the arena with their competitors (who may spend less money than them but just be in "better" guilds). Playing with the same people for almost a year and you're going to put me in this position EA? Shame on you.

Y'all complain about everything

Unfortunately people who want to leave their guilds will leave their guilds, new content does this not so much the reward structure.Many posts have come up about the reward structure of the game saying it pits players against each other, they made this to require cooperation and even rewards to avoid this.... I guess they can't make everyone happy.

"Kyno;c-1233191" wrote:Unfortunately people who want to leave their guilds will leave their guilds, new content does this not so much the reward structure.Many posts have come up about the reward structure of the game saying it pits players against each other, they made this to require cooperation and even rewards to avoid this.... I guess they can't make everyone happy.This. One of the biggest complaints about the Rancor raid rewards when it was first released was that they pit guild members against each other, because the rewards were top heavy. With AAT, at least, the shard rewards are equal. As Kyno said, even rewards encourages cooperation as opposed to competition within the guild as far as rewards go.

And if the rewards make as much sense and HAAT or HPit, it won't matter anyway. Looking at you CG.

I would add that we don't even know the details of the reward structure yet. Big-gun guilds will score higher and get more rewards ? Yes, we know that, but by how much ? This is an unknown part of the Territory Battles. With the exception of the shards for ROLO, which we know will come (at least in part) from the special mission (one shard per guild member succeeding at the mission), we don't know the amount of rewards.So, what if the difference between top-tier rewards and low-tier rewards is lower than the difference between #1 and #31 spots in HAAT ? Would the best player of a guild really be wise to leave his guild to join a stronger one ?Thus I think it's way too early to say it'll kill the mixed guilds. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but apocalyptic prophecies are too early to profess. ;)

Why equal TB rewards is bad for the game.

EventineElesedi
8 years ago
Y'all complain about everything
NyKynoe
8 years ago
Unfortunately people who want to leave their guilds will leave their guilds, new content does this not so much the reward structure.

Many posts have come up about the reward structure of the game saying it pits players against each other, they made this to require cooperation and even rewards to avoid this.... I guess they can't make everyone happy.
Nikoms565
8 years ago
"Kyno;c-1233191" wrote:
Unfortunately people who want to leave their guilds will leave their guilds, new content does this not so much the reward structure.

Many posts have come up about the reward structure of the game saying it pits players against each other, they made this to require cooperation and even rewards to avoid this.... I guess they can't make everyone happy.

This. One of the biggest complaints about the Rancor raid rewards when it was first released was that they pit guild members against each other, because the rewards were top heavy. With AAT, at least, the shard rewards are equal.

As Kyno said, even rewards encourages cooperation as opposed to competition within the guild as far as rewards go.
gibby0710
8 years ago
And if the rewards make as much sense and HAAT or HPit, it won't matter anyway. Looking at you CG.
liovandamme
8 years ago
I would add that we don't even know the details of the reward structure yet. Big-gun guilds will score higher and get more rewards ? Yes, we know that, but by how much ? This is an unknown part of the Territory Battles. With the exception of the shards for ROLO, which we know will come (at least in part) from the special mission (one shard per guild member succeeding at the mission), we don't know the amount of rewards.
So, what if the difference between top-tier rewards and low-tier rewards is lower than the difference between #1 and #31 spots in HAAT ? Would the best player of a guild really be wise to leave his guild to join a stronger one ?
Thus I think it's way too early to say it'll kill the mixed guilds. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but apocalyptic prophecies are too early to profess. ;)
Vice_Torn
Seasoned Newcomer
8 years ago
I would say I am concerned as well. If your a whale in a guild where on average other members can only preform half the tasks. Then you will only get half the gear12 items. SO in the near term your going to fall behind others that are in a full whale guild.

But, we do not know everything yet. There could be a sliding scale. IF your guild can only do half the territory battles you might get 80% of the max gear 12 gear. However, its more likly it will slide the other way...
UoJCAM
8 years ago
When TB was first announced, I believe the Devs stated it would disrupt current Guilds and cause the formation of stronger Guilds. I continue to play this game because of my Guildmates. If TB fractures Guilds it will truly be a sad day.
NicWester
8 years ago
If this bothers you there's an easy solution: Join a guild with friends so you're playing for more than just phat lewtz.
Nikoms565
8 years ago
"UoJCAM;c-1233219" wrote:
When TB was first announced, I believe the Devs stated it would disrupt current Guilds and cause the formation of stronger Guilds. I continue to play this game because of my Guildmates. If TB fractures Guilds it will truly be a sad day.

First off, to be honest, I don't remember devs saying that. I know people speculated that that would be the case.

Second, if TB does encourage guilds to restructure, that would be the second time (HAAT did the same).

Which begs the question of development team - why encourage guild formation and guild play, if you are going to continually release content to break them apart?

Again, I acknowledge that we don't know if TB's structure and/or rewards will do this yet. But I agree - if it does, it will be a sad development and another poor design choice that will likely lead to more players leaving.
BTTripleZero
8 years ago
This will definitely break up guilds, but it's done the right way now. This is how it should have been from the beginning. The current system rewards players for being the the worst guild possible that gets 600 and completes HAAT. I've never seen a guild system like that before. Every other game I've played encourage players to be in the best guild possible, and that's the direction this new content pushes things, and I'm happy with that, even if the transition is rough.