Why is Carth Onasi in Ships Hard Nodes?

If you owned this game, would you put Carth in Cantina 1-A where he will be farmed very easy and you will earn no profit, or would you put him in fleet, where you know players will struggle farming him and probably spend cash to speed it up?

"Nauros;c-1782435" wrote:

"Reyalp;c-1782409" wrote:
250 shards / 21 days = 12 a day.
375 energy for 3 refreshes per day.

There's 3 ways this can be done:

A) you have saved crystals and can farm hard, or use your accrued daily crystals to farm (easier if you place top 3 in either arena and/or fleet)

B.) you can buy the crystal pack that gives 2800 for £20. That will cover farming Carth at the rate needed above Per week. 375*7= 2625. You'll buy 3 = £60. That's a daily cost of £2.85. this method also leaves another 500 crystals left over after 3 weeks

C) you whale at the end on packs and spend circa £300

Juhani, despite being on a hard node is a 16 cost and easy to farm solely using accrued energy and taking 3 refreshes. So really you need to be making 500 crystals a day to farm both comfortably.

Obviously this only works if you compromise on all other toons for 3 weeks.

Your gripe seems o be it's paywalled. But it is and it isn't to an extent - it depends on your situation. Because I place 1st in arena, I can spare 375 crystals without needing to purchase

Yeah, you're right about Juhani, I didn't realize we get that much free regular energy. That makes it 450 crystals daily, not 550. But you are forgetting the additional shards that are needed from shipments, 3x8 attempts (what 375 crystals get you for Carth) only give you 8 shards daily on average, not 12, so you have to buy more.

As I mentioned before, I've taken 3 refresh and got 10 shards. I Also have 4 more attempts today on the node without a further refresh; and still to collect my extra ship energy later. That potentially is 12 a day...

"Jedibaldy;c-1782482" wrote:

"Intrapidoo;c-1782237" wrote:
Thats the f2p problem currently. People with 30k+ crystals stacked up who say are f2p are full of crap.

Definitely not full of crap here and I am 100% FTP. I only just missed out on Revan first time round with the really short time we had to farm the characters. I could have got him if I had bought the Mission and T3-M4 packs but staying FTP was far more important me, so I waited and got him second time round. Having learnt from this, I stockpiled the crystals I earned in game, only spending on essential gear upgrades and Badstilla, Canderous, Carth and Juhani shards when they appeared in the store. My crystals stockpile grew to about 48k doing this and having spent a load in the shops for the above, I am currently sitting on 20.8k crystals with Badstilla and Canderous @ 7*, Juhani @ 6* (55/100) and Carth @ 5* (45/85). I am just farming the last 2 now up to the 200 crystal refresh point to finish them up.

So it can be done FTP first time around if you are focussed, choose the right characters to farm and finish high in the arena each day. What also set me back also the first time Revan appeared was my gambling on us needing the scoundrels!

How many crystals a day did you earn to stockpile 48k crystals?.

Finishing in the top 20 fleet & top 50 arena is already in the top 1% - which nets me 250 PVP crystals and you get about another 90 from the dailys.

so less say 340 a day. So you saved for 141 days at that rate? - which it's only been 121 days since the first Revan release & you've said that you didn't get him first time around (so likely didn't save crystals then) - also you'd have spent crystals on farming canderous/badstila outside of the 48k stockpile.

Something in your figures doesn't really add up, either your a long term vet who can get 1 in area without needing Revan (not really possible on most shards), have stayed 1 in arena for fleet (despite not spending anything on bounty hunter ships for OG falcon - required for top 10 arena most shards).

Staying in the top end of arena & fleet for half a year without spending any crystals isn't really as viable strategy for 99% of the player-base.

Lol the fact you guys think they care at all about f2p is hilarious. Just look at sith raid rewards non heroic.

"Corruptor;c-1782547" wrote:
Lol the fact you guys think they care at all about f2p is hilarious. Just look at sith raid rewards non heroic.

Sith Raid has nothing to do with f2p/p2w at this point. Even at launch, if your guild had the right squads, it could be done. Spenders just had more brute force to make up for the wrong toons.

Most expensive farm and drop rates so far have been beyond garbage.

"Kilo_Ren;c-1782694" wrote:
Most expensive farm and drop rates so far have been beyond garbage.

YMMV. I got 5/8 and 3/8 last night, and 7/16 this morning, so I'm pretty pleased with the drop rates. I expect they will equalize about 30% like all other drop rates though.

"iliftalot1;c-1782107" wrote:
I understand, but I think it make sense to put Pilots in the Fleet battles rather then non pilots.

Wasnt he a pilot in kotor?

"Aydnie;c-1782293" wrote:

"Benny_Monstosity;c-1782101" wrote:
Because Darth Revan is coming and they don't want to make him easy to get.

Darth revan ?
Carth and Juhani are both light side. I dont think theyll be requiered if theres a legendary Darth Revan event.
Also, I believe that no Dark Side character will get a legendary event like Cls/Rjt/Revan actually have.

Not going to farm them at all and I dont know why everyone says they will be requiered. You're just going to waste your time on them.

The story has carth and juhani as playable in the battle with fallen bastila. You can then choose to be good and redeem bastila or be bad and become darth revan again.

Carth quits in the story if you do..... but i dont remember if juhani falls to dark side if you go bad.

Regardless in kotor you could beat the game as darth revan with fallen bastila and hk47 in your party.

Playing loose withe story i could use jedi revan and that team all the way up to a point where you could then get event character darth revan and require fallen bastila, canderous and hk47 in the party.

Im sitting at 11 juhani and 9 carth today.

Juhani would take 100 crystal to farm more so 3 attempts done.

Carth im at 9 with 3 more pulls i can do on this attempt

Figuring about 10 a day and i need 250 shards to 7 star them.... so 25 days, Total and thats with f2p.l winnings and having bought the $10 pack back when they launched for both.

No panic yet.... just farm away. Total spent on possible darth revan... $40 for marque 4 star packs for each character. Will look at the reset of weekly store tonight as my indicator.

If its carth, juhani, badstila, and duke nukem ill likely spend some cash and get a jump up with those this week and next.

Then the question is any packs coming... because that will be 50, weekly will be 2 weeks of 25 each... so there is 100 total. So can i farm from 4 star to 6 star....

Easy.

How much do i feel like spending is the question because this seems sub $200 for it.