Even tho i prefer sith and empire. and well the DS as a whole. i am so happy that all of these rebels and other characters that we needed (had) to farm for other events are being able to be used. Not to mention the amount of LS toons that are relevant or worth using are about 2 to 3 times more of them

There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.

Well Battlefront II you play as a team of imperial/FO soldiers so..... expect them in this game

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf. We are in the same boat, and I feel the same way. There has been too much light side/Rebel love. I like light side, and I'm sitting pretty well for this, and I understand that the nature of the movies means that there are more named Rebels.But the light side tilt is hard to defend.There are 16 (soon to be 19) more light side toons than dark. Even the B and C list light side factions (like Jawas, and Ewoks) have important uses, good synergy, and special events. While the dark side sports some of the worst factions in the game. (Nightsisters, Seperatists, Bounty Hunters, Tuskans, etc)And I had the same idea about starting a board from opposite sides, using both, and meeting in the middle. That would have been great. Not trying to steal your thunder with that idea, but as you said it's "ridiculously obvious."Not trying to be too critical of this game mode yet. It looks like a lot of fun. The rewards look great. I'm excited to get into it. I'm 90% positive looking at Territory Battles. But I hope that this marks the end of Rebel love for a bit, and the beginning of some major dark side reworks, character additions, and at some point a dark side focused Territory Battles map. And that's coming from someone who has been desperate to see Mace get a beastly rework for over a year.

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/ but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS. IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.

Why Light Side is the perfect decision for TB.

BrtStlnd
8 years ago
"Mzee;c-1238825" wrote:
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.

Exactly. Saying “well you’ll get one in the future” isn’t a valid response because 1) you don’t know that 2) am I supposed to be not disappointed because MAYBE in another year I can finally use the best characters on my roster?

The fact that dark side characters are not up to par competitively with light side is already frustrating enough, but they seem intent on not just maintaining that gap, but making the it bigger.
BrtStlnd
8 years ago
Since developers took the time to explain their thinking on the 12h window, I would love to hear the justification for excluding DS completely.
emvedebe
8 years ago
"BrtStlnd;c-1238922" wrote:
"Mzee;c-1238825" wrote:
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.

Exactly. Saying “well you’ll get one in the future” isn’t a valid response because 1) you don’t know that 2) am I supposed to be not disappointed because MAYBE in another year I can finally use the best characters on my roster?

The fact that dark side characters are not up to par competitively with light side is already frustrating enough, but they seem intent on not just maintaining that gap, but making the it bigger.

Well, if you think dark side is that much worse than light side already, wouldn't that also mean that it's very fortunate that TB is light side?
I'm one of the people who believes there's bound to be a DS TB, so making the first 1 LS makes perfect sence to me. More LS characters ingame, large rebel faction so that alot of players meet the restrictions for specific battles rather easily (obviously not the cpt han, HRsoldier ones ofcourse). Pretty much just easier across the board for your average player than a DS TB map.
I can only guess why they didn't just make it DS and LS, wich is kinda lame that they didn't, but maybe they thought having to have DS teams aswell would make it too difficult to get a team together for DS restrictions aswell. I don't know. One thing is for sure though, DS is gonna suck for a whole lot more people than LS.
taytayh
8 years ago
"BrtStlnd;c-1238928" wrote:
Since developers took the time to explain their thinking on the 12h window, I would love to hear the justification for excluding DS completely.

+1
LiamTheWise
8 years ago
"leef;c-1238933" wrote:
"BrtStlnd;c-1238922" wrote:
"Mzee;c-1238825" wrote:
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.

Exactly. Saying “well you’ll get one in the future” isn’t a valid response because 1) you don’t know that 2) am I supposed to be not disappointed because MAYBE in another year I can finally use the best characters on my roster?

The fact that dark side characters are not up to par competitively with light side is already frustrating enough, but they seem intent on not just maintaining that gap, but making the it bigger.

Well, if you think dark side is that much worse than light side already, wouldn't that also mean that it's very fortunate that TB is light side?
I'm one of the people who believes there's bound to be a DS TB, so making the first 1 LS makes perfect sence to me. More LS characters ingame, large rebel faction so that alot of players meet the restrictions for specific battles rather easily (obviously not the cpt han, HRsoldier ones ofcourse). Pretty much just easier across the board for your average player than a DS TB map.
I can only guess why they didn't just make it DS and LS, wich is kinda lame that they didn't, but maybe they thought having to have DS teams aswell would make it too difficult to get a team together for DS restrictions aswell. I don't know. One thing is for sure though, DS is gonna suck for a whole lot more people than LS.

this was the exact reason behind the OP.
theHejiN
8 years ago
"Tromedlov13;c-1236676" wrote:
I would've preferred if they were going to do an LS focused TB if wouldn't be Hoth.

Pretty much the only on screen battle in history where the DS won, they could've waited and done Hoth second and made it DS focused.

What TB are we going to have in the future that is DS focused when the best option is already taken.

As mention above not sure why it isn't mixed (though I guess it could be and we just haven't seen the one or two parts of the TB that need them.

In my opinion, Hoth should've either been mixed - some LS battles that need HRS's and such, but also battles that need GV, DV, Snowtrooper, etc. or been strictly DS.

... Defending the death star?
Dretzle
8 years ago
"JohnnySteelAlpha;c-1236894" wrote:

I think we keep getting rammed with Rebels because of Disney / marketing focus - not anything that's really based in lore. The R1 movie was Rebel-focused, the Rebels cartoon series is rebel focused - Disney pushes the good guys for profit. This game is a big commercial that we are playing.

Looking at it a different way, the movies (and therefore much of the marketing) is good guy focused because people like watching and rooting for an underdog good guy crushing evil. It starts with what sells in the box office long before what sells in toys (usually).
Acidwormss
8 years ago
"leef;c-1238933" wrote:
"BrtStlnd;c-1238922" wrote:
"Mzee;c-1238825" wrote:
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.

Exactly. Saying “well you’ll get one in the future” isn’t a valid response because 1) you don’t know that 2) am I supposed to be not disappointed because MAYBE in another year I can finally use the best characters on my roster?

The fact that dark side characters are not up to par competitively with light side is already frustrating enough, but they seem intent on not just maintaining that gap, but making the it bigger.

Well, if you think dark side is that much worse than light side already, wouldn't that also mean that it's very fortunate that TB is light side?
I'm one of the people who believes there's bound to be a DS TB, so making the first 1 LS makes perfect sence to me. More LS characters ingame, large rebel faction so that alot of players meet the restrictions for specific battles rather easily (obviously not the cpt han, HRsoldier ones ofcourse). Pretty much just easier across the board for your average player than a DS TB map.
I can only guess why they didn't just make it DS and LS, wich is kinda lame that they didn't, but maybe they thought having to have DS teams aswell would make it too difficult to get a team together for DS restrictions aswell. I don't know. One thing is for sure though, DS is gonna suck for a whole lot more people than LS.

Amplify an existing imbalance issue between the 2 sides sounds like a good decision... This is the way I see it. I'd rather they work on lessening the issue instead.
emvedebe
8 years ago
"Mzee;c-1240770" wrote:
"leef;c-1238933" wrote:
"BrtStlnd;c-1238922" wrote:
"Mzee;c-1238825" wrote:
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.

Exactly. Saying “well you’ll get one in the future” isn’t a valid response because 1) you don’t know that 2) am I supposed to be not disappointed because MAYBE in another year I can finally use the best characters on my roster?

The fact that dark side characters are not up to par competitively with light side is already frustrating enough, but they seem intent on not just maintaining that gap, but making the it bigger.

Well, if you think dark side is that much worse than light side already, wouldn't that also mean that it's very fortunate that TB is light side?
I'm one of the people who believes there's bound to be a DS TB, so making the first 1 LS makes perfect sence to me. More LS characters ingame, large rebel faction so that alot of players meet the restrictions for specific battles rather easily (obviously not the cpt han, HRsoldier ones ofcourse). Pretty much just easier across the board for your average player than a DS TB map.
I can only guess why they didn't just make it DS and LS, wich is kinda lame that they didn't, but maybe they thought having to have DS teams aswell would make it too difficult to get a team together for DS restrictions aswell. I don't know. One thing is for sure though, DS is gonna suck for a whole lot more people than LS.

Amplify an existing imbalance issue between the 2 sides sounds like a good decision... This is the way I see it. I'd rather they work on lessening the issue instead.

That's another way of looking at it.
To me that sounds like hypothetically wanting to use bounty hunters / resistance (6 man faction) instead of empire / jedi (15/18 man faction) to unlock R2D2 / yoda because of the imballance between the two factions.
I'm not really into that whole DS vs LS stuff though, so for me it doesn't matter whether a toon is LS or DS. Having lots of toons to choose from in events/game modes that have character restrictions is favourable imo, especially in game modes.
The credit heist for example requires scoundrels instead of just bounty hunters and 3 out of 5 legendary events are restricted to the larger factions ingame. I'm pretty sure that is to make those events more accessible for the players, not (just) because there's a "LS/rebel bias".
Star-Lord1718
8 years ago
"Riffinator;c-1236746" wrote:
"Star_Lord1718;c-1236742" wrote:
"Riffinator;c-1236733" wrote:
"ZephimyrAC;c-1236732" wrote:
it could be argued that all the rebel love we have seen thus far has been geared toward these territory battles..

That wouldn't be a good argument

It wouldn't be a good argument because it's a fact.

Says who? For the longest time we had been told we could use our ENTIRE rosters, not just rebels

Less than Half of our ENTIRE roster is near to useless/not nearly as viable as all of the LS toons this game has been getting lately. Count the LS and DS toons. Which side has more? What LS faction is weak or useless? None other than Lobot really. You look at the DS and BH, NS, Tuskens, Droids and Separatists are all very weak factions still. It's a shame they didn't give Empire a buff in this TB. It would be cool to fight the opposite way against the Rebels with DS bonuses.