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Gabe9876543210
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago

Why was I relegated to Kyber 2?

I was in Kyber 1 when the event started, due to my high GP. I knew I would struggle to stay, because I have low GL to GP ratio, and I do expect to fall to Kyber 2 at some point.

Fortunately, this round, I still managed to sneak a win in the last matchup, so I ended in spot #6, which should be the same as #5-#7 with a single win.

#8 obviously got relegated to Kyber 2.
#5 and #7 are still in Kyber 1.
Me, at #6 got relegated to Kyber 2.

We have been told it is the Skill Rating that sets who gets dropped, and #5 has 3,540, #7 has 3,528 and me at #6 has 3,525. So that checks out.

But wasn't the original skill rating supposed to be based on GP alone? #7 has 7.5M, I have 7.4M, and #5 has 7.3M,

Why is my new skill rating less than #5's? I have (and most likely had) more GP than them at the start, and we both had one win.

It really is not a big deal that I was relegated, but to me it seems like bad math.
  • Each division has a skill point bracket associated with it



    I am in Kyber two so skill range between 3220 and 3540. Mine is 3528 so that checks.

    If I drop below 3220 I go to Kyber three, if I get above 3540 then off to Kyber one.

    Looks like you move after the 3 matches but not totally sure.

    10% thing is for end of season I am pretty sure and for between leagues.
  • "ShaggyB;c-2323791" wrote:
    Its the skill range. 3540 is the bare min for kyber 1.

    Your original seed was based on GP. After the rounds finish its based on skill score. Drop below 3540 and you drop.

    If player in #8 had a higher skill score at the start... aka hes seeded higher based on gp.... then he come in dead last and may still be above 3540 skill points.


    No, we both started on the same skill rating, however I think it must have only updated their league/division/thing after they next logged in since the player who was in 8th is now showing as Kyber-2 as well, so that removes the 8th place non-relegation confusion at least
  • Also, be happy for demotion. You'll face easier opponents, so the chances of winning increases.


    That's cute that you think that.
  • IT was a fast transition. I was moved up from 3 to 2 after going 3-0 this round. Thought it would take a few rounds.
  • Are we sure that the non-joiners will not be moved down though? It seems like skill rating is only updated once you log into the game, and I would suspect that a healthy share of the non-joiners are inactive accounts...?
  • "Hawthorne;c-2323865" wrote:
    "DEATHER;c-2323861" wrote:
    Acording to QA nonjoiners will drop.

    Q: How are you handling inactive players? Are there changes to how we join GAC? If we miss the signup day, do we lose crystals for the week?
    A: Players who miss a GAC Event (the 3-round, 8 person pool) will lose Skill Rating as though they had lost 2 times against an identical Skill Rating opponent (aka this gives 1 match of "miss forgiveness"). If a Player reliably misses GAC, their rating will drop each time. -shortpaw


    That was my point earlier. They didn't drop. At least not yet. Whether they were supposed to drop at the end of the first week or not I'm not sure, but the Q/A made it sound like they were supposed to. Right now active players are getting demoted while inactives get to hold their position. Of course assuming they fix it and inactives start getting demoted over time, I'm not sure what you do about them clogging up the lower divisions. Do they pull them completely out the equation at some point? What if they decide to come out of retirement? Won't that be fun for the guys in the lower divisions when a former Kyber1 retiree makes a comeback with 6gls vs none! :)


    How do you know that nonjoiner didnt had his skill rating reduced after 1st week?(skill point reduction wont always drop them to lower division)
  • Oongah's avatar
    Oongah
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    Because I didn't join with my alt. Decided to retire my alt and drop down to 1 account. My alt started in Kyber1 at 3810 and is still at 3810 and in Kyber1 after the first week.
  • "Hawthorne;c-2323870" wrote:
    Because I didn't join with my alt. Decided to retire my alt and drop down to 1 account. My alt started in Kyber1 at 3810 and is still at 3810 and in Kyber1 after the first week.


    And you login in alt? It seems like bug and i believe they will fix it.


  • Global ranking is completly bug on my phone. Same for everyone ? If it is confirmed then it could explain why people went down with better results than others.

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