Why you shouldn’t 6* mods.

"Liath;c-1722203" wrote:

"Mr_Sausage;c-1722195" wrote:
I don’t see any good reason in the OP to not upgrade to 6*. Am I missing something?

The issue is that if you want to try to do events like C3PO at the minimum possible gear level, you want to compensate for the lack of gear by moving your best mods to the team, but the team won’t be able to use 6* mods because they aren’t g12.

I still don't see that as much of an issue. If the event is of the easy type, the gear os easy to get. If it's of the hard type, the team is usually good enough that putting h12 on one or more toons isn't wasted gear.

And for the hard type I don't like pulling my arena mods unless absolutely necessary. It's a pain to have to move them around and you fall too far if the event takes more than a few hours. Better to just farm more good mods and only use arena mods if absolutely needed. Even if it means gearing more than needed.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1722220" wrote:

"Liath;c-1722212" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1722205" wrote:

"Liath;c-1722203" wrote:

"Mr_Sausage;c-1722195" wrote:
I don’t see any good reason in the OP to not upgrade to 6*. Am I missing something?

The issue is that if you want to try to do events like C3PO at the minimum possible gear level, you want to compensate for the lack of gear by moving your best mods to the team, but the team won’t be able to use 6* mods because they aren’t g12.

I still don't see that as much of an issue. If the event is of the easy type, the gear os easy to get. If it's of the hard type, the team is usually good enough that putting h12 on one or more toons isn't wasted gear.

And for the hard type I don't like pulling my arena mods unless absolutely necessary. It's a pain to have to move them around and you fall too far if the event takes more than a few hours. Better to just farm more good mods and only use arena mods if absolutely needed. Even if it means gearing more than needed.

This is a matter of play style, in part, and what teams you like and want to work on at the time. Gearing Ewoks or BH isn’t wasted, I agree, but some people might not want to do it at the time they are completing the events if they don’t have to because they simply have other priorities.

The claim that if the event is of the easy type the gear is easy to get isn’t necessarily true either. Thrawn event is a lot easier than these two legendaries but Phoenix gear is miserable. They require a boat load of stun guns to get past g8, so running the event at g8 with good mods was far preferable to me at the time I did it than gearing them up more.

I was thinking more of the revan event. I don't have revan because of stars but gearing a toon fron g1 to g9 is really quick.

Part of it is also that the low level gear is easier to get now then it was two years ago. Part of it is being end game I'm sure but not all of it. I did Pheonix when we didn't have a guild events store.

I also only had limited mods at the time. Now I can get decent mods on a team without pulling them from other teams rather easily. I have probably 50 speed arrows and dozens if mods with +10 or more speed secondaies. My arena mods have +18 or +19 but if you put +10 or more on a team for events with speed arrows, then you'll do fine in most cases.

It does vary depending on what part of the game you're in. If you're a new player and only have a handful of mods, you'll probably need to move them. But by the time you have g12 characters to put 6 dit mods on, you should be able to get +10 or +15 speed mods quickly enough from events that you'll always have some that still need slicing. So by the time you have a handful of g12 characters, you have plenty of mods that slicing them isn't detrimental.

Sure, it’s a matter of what you have, how close you are cutting it to the minimum possible, and all of that. Maybe at an even lower gear level you can do it with the +20 mods when you can’t do it with the +10. It’s always going to be marginal. I am not the OP and wouldn’t have phrased the topic as “why you shouldn’t” so much as “why you should think carefully.” Not everybody finds +15 mods easy to come by.

The other concern, aside from events, is the occasional marquee character that is really useful, even for arena, at lower stars. For somebody who isn’t going to pay for such a character but might still want to use it in arena, making sure to have some good mods available for such an occurrence could also be important.

The whole point of 6 dots mods aside from making your toons awesome in arena and your fleet faster is the fact that they don’t want people to use certain 3* and 4* toons to make them go crazy without using resources to get there. Example is DS Bastilla, Nest, and even Bossk that can be at low star levels and be great.

I've decided I'm going to stop playing completely so I can sandbag GA.

"TVF;c-1722308" wrote:
I've decided I'm going to stop playing completely so I can sandbag GA.

Start a new account. Level nothing. Rule GA!

The only place I've found 6* mods to be useful is in Fleet Arena.

By 6*ing my pilots, I can eke out 1 or 2 more points of speed than my opponent with the same g12 pilot can manage. I've done this with my Vader, and now my TIE Advanced always goes first instead of RNG to split the tie. That was the most important toon for me, because it meant that Biggs had Taunt up, which meant that only biggs got target locked, which meant that when the enemy's Slave1 appeared it couldn't use Proton Torpedoes to hit my TIE or TIE Adv behind Biggs' taunt. For a while when RNG went bad I'd get target locked by enemy Vader AND take some serious damage, then Biggs would taunt, then there would be some bashing while I took down the enemy tank (usually also Biggs), then their Slave 1 would show up and finish off my TIE Adv on its first action before I could dispel the buffs. It sucked.

Fleet Arena has moved on since that meta, but when I dropped 6* mods on my Vader I started winning every time because of that tiny +1/+2 speed difference. Even today it matters, because some folks still run Vader in their front-line Fleet Arena squadron.

With Grand Arena I'll probably 6-dot KRU so my TIE Silencer will always go first, since I'm using TIE-S on defense. But I don't care too much about 6-dot mods other than getting the most speed possible on Fleet. Strategy, synergy, and zetas matter a heck of a lot more than whether your mod is 5dot or 6dot. Given the inherent lack of flexibility for 6dot mods - which was the point of the OP - I'm not trying to 6dot anything beyond what I need for certain very specific pilots.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1722350" wrote:

"Tezza23;c-1722340" wrote:
I think he has a very good point about not activating characters , yes it maybe 1 character But by the time you have trained, levelled, modded,geared and zetaed him you are looking at a heck of a lot of gp. And being a normal player when I come against a opponent who sandbags it does make you think what’s the point , your just getting better to do worse.

That’s why there should have been a co-op alternative version (option) to grand arena so collectors and cooperative players like my self could progress without being penalised.

I still can't understand this "sandbagging/penalized" thing.

most maxed toons come in around 20k. That's about 1% of a 2m GP roster. That's NOT a heck of a lot.

And we're not talking about 7* 85 G12 zeta toons. So I don't buy this huge advantage these lean rosters are supposed to have. Or how anyone with a roster of g8 toons is suddenly at a disadvantage.

I'm at 1.9m GP and outside of the teams I've farmed for specific events I don't really have much. I went up against a guy with loads and loads of g8 toons with only a handful of g12s. I cleared his board and he didn't take out a single squad of mine. Keeping your GP down makes a HUGE difference in GA.

"StarWarsWantsTooMuch;c-1722175" wrote:

c3p0 isnt no revan

C-3PO is Revan?

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1722350" wrote:

"Tezza23;c-1722340" wrote:
I think he has a very good point about not activating characters , yes it maybe 1 character But by the time you have trained, levelled, modded,geared and zetaed him you are looking at a heck of a lot of gp. And being a normal player when I come against a opponent who sandbags it does make you think what’s the point , your just getting better to do worse.

That’s why there should have been a co-op alternative version (option) to grand arena so collectors and cooperative players like my self could progress without being penalised.

I still can't understand this "sandbagging/penalized" thing.

most maxed toons come in around 20k. That's about 1% of a 2m GP roster. That's NOT a heck of a lot.

And we're not talking about 7* 85 G12 zeta toons. So I don't buy this huge advantage these lean rosters are supposed to have. Or how anyone with a roster of g8 toons is suddenly at a disadvantage.

What is their not to get? A G12 squad will most likely wipe the floor with a 100 squads of gear level 8 toons. And If I was to keep my GP low I’m far less likely to get a opponent who could defeat just 1 of my gear 12 squads. But if I was to unlock characters and play the game normally I’m more likely to face a dolphin/whale who can equal my gear 12’s or better them.

Last territory war my reven squad beat 30 teams of opponents who had a higher gp than me before he was taken out, so what chance would a opponent of my size or lower have against it? So it would be more beneficial to me not to increase my Gp cause I know the higher I go the more likely people have teams to take him out.

"2smooth;c-1722383" wrote:
Maybe just bad luck but my first mistake upgrade to 6 dot resulted in plus 1 speed and my best speed mod gone until g12. I have regretted it since and won’t be g12 for another few weeks.

I can c doing it if ur not changing mods with teams but not sure if that’s the route I will go in future to make such commitment.

The increase in stats is by a set percentage. Speed will always go up by 1 except for primaries.