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"Naecabon;490943" wrote:"jeremyj26;490933" wrote:"Naecabon;490920" wrote:"jeremyj26;490911" wrote:"Naecabon;490896" wrote:"jeremyj26;490893" wrote:"Naecabon;490879" wrote:"jeremyj26;490869" wrote:
Seems like the easiest fix is a proper cooldown. Also, you can't pretend to be heading up the cause for reform, Nae, when you abuse it as much as any. Comes off as hypocritical.
Easiest, yes, but it doesn't solve as much as you'd think. They have to juggle a cooldown that attempts to mitigate collateral damage from alt hopping and guild hopping while also keeping that cooldown small enough to have the least amount of incidental impact on people that get booted from a guild or want to just switch normally. It's a difficult thing to balance. As a result, it probably can't/won't be as long as it needs to be to be effective.
So so so so many guilds guild hop that the topic means nothing to me at this point. If you aren't guild hopping you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Altfactorying was clearly something everyone got **** over so we've since stopped doing it nearly as much while we transition to an alt guild instead like everyone else. But make no mistake - plenty of guilds, including many people in this forum, guild hop and merc it up. So we're desensitized to the criticism at this point.
The difference is I don't see many of those people cooking up solid solutions to the problem. They just casually participate and say nothing otherwise.
I would like to see the cooldown at 24 hours, personally. The cooldown is not going to hurt the individual. The being kicked is what hurts the individual. I don't see what benefit it would be for him(the kicked player) to be able to instantly go back into another guild.
A 24 hour cooldown solves nothing. Alt guild hopping still exists.
Take all your alts, fill a guild with them, save up coins. Get 150K + an open raid, switch out of your one guild to that guild, raid 3-4 times. Move all your alts over to your main guild and keep getting 30K/day in the meantime while you're not there.
Switch back to main guild after 24 hours, continue on like normal. What did the 24 hour cooldown solve?
No amount of cooldown will fix that.
And therein lies the problem.
To my second point. You want to stop alt farming/guild hopping without harming those in the guild wilds, right? So, a heavy cooldown for those that try to go back to their original guild.
So then you just abandon guilds each time and make new ones. If all you want is more raids you just abandon the concept of the leaderboard entirely, like EASB.
I don't think any self-respecting guild would do that en masse. I think the individual raid currency has some potential.
