Arena mods question
So speed is everything right? Crouching rancor has many toons listed without speed sets. Is there any reason not to put a speed set on anyone for arena?
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Crit Damage is better than speed for a lot of characters.
It isn't that hard to get 80 speed from primaries and secondaries, which means that 200 speed is kind of a baseline speed in arena.
At 200 speed that someone's base speed is 120. A speed set would give 12 speed.
12 speed is roughly 1/16 of that toon's total speed.
Assuming you use a crit damage triangle no matter what, a crit damage set will take you from 186% crit damage to 216% crit damage, a 5/31 increase in damage overall (pretty close to 1/6).
Now critting isn't guaranteed so we need to take crit chance into account. In order to determine the breakpoint we'll make an equation:
5/31X=1/16
x= 38.75/100 or 38.75% Crit Chance
So a character will do more damage with a crit damage set than a speed set once their crit chance breaks 38.75%.
Now this is assuming they are a 120 speed character with 80 speed from mods. The higher the base speed the character has, the more speed the speed set will give them, likewise the lower the speed from mods, the higher the % increase will be from the speed set.
So my first example was kind of a comparison based on what I would call common base speeds and mod speeds, So let's make an extreme example of a scenario that maximizes the speed set's usefulness:
TFP has a base speed of 170. Let's assume he only has a speed arrow so is only getting 30 speed from mods and is a 200 speed overall.
The speed set will give him 17 speed, which is an increase of 1/11 (rounded up, it's actually closer to 1/12)
So we get the formula:
5/31x = 1/11 which works out to 56.36% crit
So what does this tell us? That most characters will do better damage with a crit damage set than a speed set at around 40% crit, and that all characters will do better damage with a crit damage set than a speed set at 57% crit.
And for a final example, let's minimize the speed set's effectiveness:
Let's pick a toon with an 89 base speed and 175 speed from mods (max not counting set bonus as far as I am aware). That's 8 speed from that speed set. 8 is roughly 1/33 of the 264 speed the guy has from base and primary/secondary speeds.
5/31x = 1/33 which works out to 18.78% crit.
So if you have uber speed mods, there's practically no character that would do better with a speed set than a Crit damage set.
It isn't that hard to get 80 speed from primaries and secondaries, which means that 200 speed is kind of a baseline speed in arena.
At 200 speed that someone's base speed is 120. A speed set would give 12 speed.
12 speed is roughly 1/16 of that toon's total speed.
Assuming you use a crit damage triangle no matter what, a crit damage set will take you from 186% crit damage to 216% crit damage, a 5/31 increase in damage overall (pretty close to 1/6).
Now critting isn't guaranteed so we need to take crit chance into account. In order to determine the breakpoint we'll make an equation:
5/31X=1/16
x= 38.75/100 or 38.75% Crit Chance
So a character will do more damage with a crit damage set than a speed set once their crit chance breaks 38.75%.
Now this is assuming they are a 120 speed character with 80 speed from mods. The higher the base speed the character has, the more speed the speed set will give them, likewise the lower the speed from mods, the higher the % increase will be from the speed set.
So my first example was kind of a comparison based on what I would call common base speeds and mod speeds, So let's make an extreme example of a scenario that maximizes the speed set's usefulness:
TFP has a base speed of 170. Let's assume he only has a speed arrow so is only getting 30 speed from mods and is a 200 speed overall.
The speed set will give him 17 speed, which is an increase of 1/11 (rounded up, it's actually closer to 1/12)
So we get the formula:
5/31x = 1/11 which works out to 56.36% crit
So what does this tell us? That most characters will do better damage with a crit damage set than a speed set at around 40% crit, and that all characters will do better damage with a crit damage set than a speed set at 57% crit.
And for a final example, let's minimize the speed set's effectiveness:
Let's pick a toon with an 89 base speed and 175 speed from mods (max not counting set bonus as far as I am aware). That's 8 speed from that speed set. 8 is roughly 1/33 of the 264 speed the guy has from base and primary/secondary speeds.
5/31x = 1/33 which works out to 18.78% crit.
So if you have uber speed mods, there's practically no character that would do better with a speed set than a Crit damage set.
