So, I'm planning on making a new account, which will probably involve a Hyperdrive Bundle. With that bundle, I'd be able to farm up Arc Trooper relatively quickly, and a few thousand crystals can get a 2 star Shaak Ti to go along with the 501st Clones. Or, I could farm for GBA and (somewhat less quickly) get a Padme team.So, which team is better? Specifically, which team is better against the Bastilla lead / JKR teams that make up most of the top of new shards? From what I can see both teams can crush JKR on offense but lose fairly easily to them on defense.Teams would be Shaak Ti/Fives/Echo/Rex/Arc (could sub JKA for Arc) or Padme/GK/JKA/Ashoka/GMY (could sub Barris for GMY).If there's another team that can counter JKR teams relatively well on defense, that would be nice to know as well. Only ones I've found are GLs, GAS, DR-Malak, and Sep Droids, none of which are as accessible as JKR is.

I don't have stats on this, but my best guess is that Shaak is better when it can counter-attack, but since JKR's Strategic Advantage prevents counterattacks, Padmé is probably better against them. It's a narrow thing, however, since Echo has an AoE dispel, which can be hugely important and effective against Revan. Think about this: The Shaak squad needs fewer zetas to work. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the game (just because you're starting a new account doesn't mean you don't have an older one), so forgive me if this is all information you already have, but zetas are going to be hard to come by early on. Both Padmé and Shaak TI squads need 2 zetas just to be minimally viable, but really significantly more than that to work as intended. The difference is that with a Shaak Ti squad 3 zetas is plenty (that gives you both of Shaak Ti's zetas + 5s sacrifice zeta). More zetas is gravy, but 3 is good for Shaak. Meanwhile Threepio can't do much for you without 2 zetas of his own, so the Padmé squad doesn't work as intended without 4-5 zetas. You can go without Threepio, of course (and at the beginning, you will have to) but then you run into other problems: Ahsoka, for instance, adds a bunch of assists with her zeta, enough to put her on par with Echo's AoE dispel, but Echo doesn't need a zeta to get that job done. Remember that getting GK is going to take a long time - there's no way around the HAAT slow-farm requirement there. Threepio's event is going to require at least one ewok zeta, and if you don't want to waste g11 finishers on your ewoks, you'll need 2 or 3 zetas total on your ewoks just to unlock Threepio at 7*. Again, this is a zeta tax that the Clones just don't face. So you're likely going to be using CloneWars Chewbacca in your early-version Padmé squad, and that's not bad, he does surprisingly well there, but it is gear you're spending on a character you will later retire - so that's a gear tax. You may very well also run Barriss, and again, that's not a bad character for this squad, but Padmé, Anakin, Ahsoka, CWC, Barriss is simply an inferior squad and you can't get GK or Threepio right away. So there's that gear tax again - plus a zeta tax if you want to make Barriss work. Add to this that the gear requirements for Padmé are worse than the gear requirements for Shaak Ti and I think if the purpose is to gear up a viable Arena squad quickly that you'll be better off with Shaak. Success will probably be better in the short run, slightly worse in the long run, but you avoid steep zeta and gear taxes that can hurt an early player account. Again, I don't have data on your original question - which one is harder for Bastila and JKR squads to beat - but I hope these additional thoughts are helpful in putting together your ideas about which is nonetheless the better squad for you.

Geo's also beat jkr, so if you go padme, you can use your geo's while you're working on your padme team

"TargetEadu;c-2159827" wrote: But before C3PO, would GMY or Barriss be a better 5th? GMY seems to be the more often used (and doesn't necessarily need a zeta to work), but zBarriss's healing seems like a good way to mitigate JKR and GMY's attacks.As someone who runs JKR in arena, I'm more afraid of GMY than Barriss as the added health only comes into affect when a crit occurs. With GK, you get a lot of crit hit immunity. It only lasts one turn and will only pop up if there's no buff immunity locked. I'd do GMY if I were you.

@Darth_DeVito Are you sure shaak doesn't beat DR+ malak . Because I've been consistently beating them with my shaak team since day 1

"Treeburner;c-2159955" wrote:@Darth_DeVito Are you sure shaak doesn't beat DR+ malak . Because I've been consistently beating them with my shaak team since day 1 Mine (all r3 and shaak g12) can beat a relic Dr but only a 5 star g11 malak. Its a struggle beyond that and if I lose echo then its over

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Darth_DeVito
5 years ago
"TargetEadu;c-2159827" wrote:
I'm leaning toward Padme. I think I can get C3PO as a higher priority than I've been planning. But before C3PO, would GMY or Barriss be a better 5th? GMY seems to be the more often used (and doesn't necessarily need a zeta to work), but zBarriss's healing seems like a good way to mitigate JKR and GMY's attacks.

GMY is probably the best fifth against GAS and also works well against DR if you mod him for speed. I have relic 3PO, R2, Barriss and Shaak Ti, and I used GMY almost exclusively before I switched to GAS. 3PO has some strengths versus DR though and used to hold better on defense against Palp, but I'm not sure if that's still true after the Vader rework.
Sanderzas
5 years ago
"Darth_DeVito;c-2160566" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2159827" wrote:
I'm leaning toward Padme. I think I can get C3PO as a higher priority than I've been planning. But before C3PO, would GMY or Barriss be a better 5th? GMY seems to be the more often used (and doesn't necessarily need a zeta to work), but zBarriss's healing seems like a good way to mitigate JKR and GMY's attacks.

and used to hold better on defense against Palp, but I'm not sure if that's still true after the Vader rework.

I have tried palp with vader against padme after the rework. Before the rework, you were almost not able to kill padme, now it's very difficult and I had to play very carefully. (my empire was a little bit undergeared in comparison with the padme team. It was G11 with G12 vader against G12 with r3 or 4 anakin and G11 C3PO)
treebunner
5 years ago
"Darth_DeVito;c-2160564" wrote:
"Treeburner;c-2159955" wrote:
@Darth_DeVito
Are you sure shaak doesn't beat DR+ malak . Because I've been consistently beating them with my shaak team since day 1

Not at the top of the arena, no.

Does full r7 count ? Because I don't know what I can do to make their team better for you lol.
When you mod properly it's quite easy ,if you are having problems defeating full relic DR malak teams inbox me I'll help you out .
treebunner
5 years ago
@Sanderzas
treebunner
5 years ago

I mean not as fast as the last one but I think you get the drift
Sanderzas
5 years ago
@Treeburner

I never tried it with arc because I don't have him geared up. it seems that with arc it's also possible.
treebunner
5 years ago
"Sanderzas;c-2161029" wrote:
@Treeburner

I never tried it with arc because I don't have him geared up. it seems that with arc it's also possible.

So your telling me that you are not running the optimal clones under shaak ti leadership?
Seems weird but each to their own .
What relic levels are the rest of the team at ? Are you using JKA as your 5th ?

Also if you want to theory craft Youtubers like ahnald won't get you far.
Sanderzas
5 years ago
"Treeburner;c-2161056" wrote:
"Sanderzas;c-2161029" wrote:
@Treeburner

I never tried it with arc because I don't have him geared up. it seems that with arc it's also possible.

So your telling me that you are not running the optimal clones under shaak ti leadership?
Seems weird but each to their own .
What relic levels are the rest of the team at ? Are you using JKA as your 5th ?

Also if you want to theory craft Youtubers like ahnald won't get you far.

I'm using shaak with rex echo fives and sarge, but I don't use them to counter DR. I know arc is better, but at G1 I don't think he will be a great addition.
treebunner
5 years ago
"Sanderzas;c-2161201" wrote:
"Treeburner;c-2161056" wrote:
"Sanderzas;c-2161029" wrote:
@Treeburner

I never tried it with arc because I don't have him geared up. it seems that with arc it's also possible.

So your telling me that you are not running the optimal clones under shaak ti leadership?
Seems weird but each to their own .
What relic levels are the rest of the team at ? Are you using JKA as your 5th ?

Also if you want to theory craft Youtubers like ahnald won't get you far.

I'm using shaak with rex echo fives and sarge, but I don't use them to counter DR. I know arc is better, but at G1 I don't think he will be a great addition.

Think cody or Ashoka will be a better 5th than sarge .
You could also try zeta Barris as the 5th
Sanderzas
5 years ago
I don't have barris or cody geared up, and ashoka is more useful with padme I think. But thanks for the help.

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