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Ikky2win's avatar
7 years ago

Bastila working as intended?

First off, I’m going to try and keep this as constructive as possible. I am in a November 2017 shard so what I’m going to say may not apply to old shards. We just got our first Traya with another half dozen or so expected this week. The player in the screenshot below reached 5th place in the EST payout today. We are a highly competitive shard, mostly all on discord, running either nightmare or JTR until recently.

5th place for this team (it shows 20 because I didn’t immediately take a screenshot and he’s dropped since then) is absolutely ridiculous. Let me state that I have no problem with meta shifts. What I have an issue with is a squad with far less gear, far less stars, and FAR worse mods getting that high. It completely negates the hard work, time, and in some cases money money people spend. Now I don’t blame the player at all. Good on him for doing that well. He’s just playing with the tools CG gave him. Also, I would have absolutely no issue if his team was all 7 stars, or close, g12, or close, and with equivalent mods to other top 10 teams, or close. The fact remains though he has a 4 star character, a 5 star character, a g10 character and 4 g11 characters. His average speed from mods is in the 70s to 80s. He’s beating teams that are all 7 star, all g12 with g12 and even g12+ pieces, and average speeds in the 100s to 110s, sometimes higher.

I’m sorry but that should not happen. Not only is it extremely frustrating for the people that have worked tremendously hard to get to top 10, but it’s also bad for the game itself. CG has to make money for the game to survive. Why spend money when you can do just fine with a team that isn’t well geared, isn’t starred up, and is using subpar mods?

Let me address some of the comments that are sure to be posted:

1. Once people start getting Traya this team won’t be able to beat it. That’s fine for old shards but in newer shards getting in a hsr guild is not exactly easy. This guy for example has 860k gp. I have 1.9 million, will have Traya this week, and am In The top 5-10 gp wise for comparison. Only two guilds in our shard are farming Traya that I’m aware of, meaning Traya is not going to hit our shard in bulk for many MONTHS.
2. You’re just upset because you’re getting beat. Yes and no. I’m not mad at the player. Good for him. I actually commend him for making the most with what he has. I’m upset because I feel like all the time, money, and effort has been wasted.
3. Metas shift. Well ya, and like I said I’d be totally fine if Bastila Jedi were the new meta if they required the gear, mods, and stars that all the previous metas required. Nightmare and Jtr would not be top 10 in the previous metas with 70 speed mods and g10 characters.

So how do you fix it? Really the only issue is the tenacity with the zeta. It negates almost everything other squads are built around. The tenacity needs to be lowered or changed to something else.


  • Remember that I started late November 2017. I’ve only ever seen 1 nightsister squad in arena ever. I wasn’t around for any of the things you mentioned. This is the first time our shard has seen lower geared, lower starred, undermodded characters reaching the top. We went from Phoenix, to zPalp, to jtr and zPalp. That’s pretty much all We’ve seen at the top of our shard, with a rare Rex and fo team for a little bit. It’s rather depressing that this has happened before though.
  • Hello Ikky,

    Sorry, I know I started before November, I was pre CLS but not sure beyond that. Everyone was up in arms when CLS came out the first time. That is why people who gear everyone and mod everyone end up doing better in the long run. Sure, people can whale on some team one time, hit it lucky and get to the top of the arena for a while. But once the meta shifts, its anyone's game. People who have more characters higher level are more likely to have the necessary pieces to make the best new team in the next meta. But keep on trying to figure out Bastila, that is the fun of the game to me. One of the reasons I don't like the new sith raid is that to beat it, you just need specific teams and lots of them. With the earlier raids when they first came out it was a puzzle. You had to try different people with different team members and find something new that worked. Yes, eventually 1 person could solo the Pit, but you could also do quite well with 5-6 people who took the time to figure the raid out and or find a loop hole. Now every loop hole people find with the sith raid gets shut.

    But that is off topic. Point is, cowboy up, and try different things and find something better or predict the next meta. That is the fun of the game.
  • "Ikky2win;c-1627902" wrote:
    Remember that I started late November 2017. I’ve only ever seen 1 nightsister squad in arena ever. I wasn’t around for any of the things you mentioned. This is the first time our shard has seen lower geared, lower starred, undermodded characters reaching the top. We went from Phoenix, to zPalp, to jtr and zPalp. That’s pretty much all We’ve seen at the top of our shard, with a rare Rex and fo team for a little bit. It’s rather depressing that this has happened before though.


    That’s what I told you like in the 6th post of this thread. People were using multiple Low geared Low star Low mod Night Shitsters to defeat the very difficult to obtain JTR which is even more upsetting. This has happened before and will happen again, that’s how they sell packs...


    It does also give players with careful planning the opportunity to hoard resources and go all in with the next meta introduction.