I say the arena is still totally fixed. For five battles I’ve intentionally matched my opponent character for character with higher level and geared characters. For example my last battle was an 82,000 point team versus a matching 70,000 point team. Dooku , palp, maul, Sidious, trooper. Letting the game do all of fighting for me I was solidly beat with zero kills. As I said five seperate tries with five separate matching teams over the last week and pretty much the same thing happens. I say when it’s apples to apples it’s rigged, change my mind.

"Keoni;d-204394" wrote:Letting the game do all of fighting for me I was solidly beat with zero kills. You have no mind to change.

Lol when you believe that the offense AI is trained to beat the defense AI

So then don’t let the game do the fighting for you? If you want to win on offense than don’t auto it.Removed unnecessary insult ~Rtas

Unless you are really lazy, dont use ai for arena. Get revan, youll see why.

? How is this the stupidest post? He's not saying I always run on auto and why do I lose? He's testing an exact match squad that is more powerful, and running it on auto to take out the variable of individual skill and strategy. His point being that technically, the mirror match with the ai supposedly on par both ways should result in more wins than losses for his squad statistically due to the significant power boost his holds.. Everyone knows there is rng obviously, so if he had said I should have won every time, then give him crap. But he's saying he is 0-5 when statistically, he should be able to win more than half the time. People who answer by trolling aren't being helpful. Just save your negativity and kindly direct in inwards. Having said all this, to OP, although I often feel that way as well, quite simply, you cannot come to any conclusions with such a small sample size. I know.... I wouldn't want to hear it either. But the truth is that you would need a SIGNIFICANT number of runs to actually be able to point to that as a conclusion. I mean from an actual "proof" with data standpoint to say it factually. I am not refuting your point at all, but let me play devils advocate if you really want to be convinced. Rng... Enough said. But even if you match the squads exactly, you would have to basically have the exact same gear mods, or stronger by a decent margin, as they are literally make or break. Yes your score is higher, but honestly, I think gp is just a brutal formula that really doesn't line up anything in terms of strength. I've had way underpowered squads absolutely destroy much stronger ones, and vice versa. Mostly based on synergy or the fact they have a buff or mechanism that messes with the others. Lets say that you are certain that everyone of your mods is superior..... Well you could have higher stats, but the other squad could have a specific stat boost that is ideal, or triggers some kind of ability, synergy etc.... That would render that higher stat a non issue in terms of outcome. Etc etc.

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NicWester
6 years ago
"Keoni;d-204394" wrote:
Letting the game do all of fighting for me I was solidly beat with zero kills.

You have no mind to change.
Nihion
6 years ago
Lol when you believe that the offense AI is trained to beat the defense AI
Tabub
6 years ago
So then don’t let the game do the fighting for you? If you want to win on offense than don’t auto it.

Removed unnecessary insult ~Rtas
Ryanwhales
6 years ago
Unless you are really lazy, dont use ai for arena.

Get revan, youll see why.
Frodobongins99
6 years ago
? How is this the stupidest post? He's not saying I always run on auto and why do I lose? He's testing an exact match squad that is more powerful, and running it on auto to take out the variable of individual skill and strategy. His point being that technically, the mirror match with the ai supposedly on par both ways should result in more wins than losses for his squad statistically due to the significant power boost his holds.. Everyone knows there is rng obviously, so if he had said I should have won every time, then give him crap. But he's saying he is 0-5 when statistically, he should be able to win more than half the time. People who answer by trolling aren't being helpful. Just save your negativity and kindly direct in inwards. Having said all this, to OP, although I often feel that way as well, quite simply, you cannot come to any conclusions with such a small sample size. I know.... I wouldn't want to hear it either. But the truth is that you would need a SIGNIFICANT number of runs to actually be able to point to that as a conclusion. I mean from an actual "proof" with data standpoint to say it factually. I am not refuting your point at all, but let me play devils advocate if you really want to be convinced. Rng... Enough said. But even if you match the squads exactly, you would have to basically have the exact same gear mods, or stronger by a decent margin, as they are literally make or break. Yes your score is higher, but honestly, I think gp is just a brutal formula that really doesn't line up anything in terms of strength. I've had way underpowered squads absolutely destroy much stronger ones, and vice versa. Mostly based on synergy or the fact they have a buff or mechanism that messes with the others. Lets say that you are certain that everyone of your mods is superior..... Well you could have higher stats, but the other squad could have a specific stat boost that is ideal, or triggers some kind of ability, synergy etc.... That would render that higher stat a non issue in terms of outcome. Etc etc.
naraiceylob
6 years ago
@Keoni did you compare mods. It sounds to me like you picked a squad the match the opponent and had bad mods on your team.
Captain_Apollo4
6 years ago
"Naraic;c-1864994" wrote:
@Keoni did you compare mods. It sounds to me like you picked a squad the match the opponent and had bad mods on your team.

I agree. I've wiped teams that out geared me but had vastly inferior mods. Gp wise they had a 10k advantage but because of poor mods they were easy kills. If you're +/- 5 speed on all the toons where speed matters with both using mod sets that provide some benefit (rather than an ad hoc collection of mods that give no set bonus) then the 10k advantage is more meaningful.

I'd also agree you need a larger sample size than 5. The sample size is still within the realm of just rng (you can in theory flip a coin and get heads 5 times in a row). I'd say you need at least 50 matches, ideally 100+ before you can rule out rng.
Rmaxtpmx
6 years ago
It's amazing how many people ignore mods in this game. Since you didn't mention mods, i can only assume you've paid no attention to them. Do that before don't any kind of AI testing. Plus as someone mentioned already, 5 battles is very insignificant. If only science was that easy.
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
"Tabub;c-1864956" wrote:
So then don’t let the game do the fighting for you? If you want to win on offense than don’t auto it, this is the dumbest post I’ve seen in a while.

Tabub, I can make 1 far more dumb.
MosJuzz
6 years ago
You got to the next conclusion:
AI is mainly stupid and cannot take full advantage of character kits or enemies that should be cleared before others.

And, from my experience , it uses different algorithms on attack and defense