Climbing Up

@Liath @Anakin_Skywalker Honeslty that’s a let down. Finding out about that sucks. Like this game is suppose to be long term so why not play against other players who are also rank #1? Would there be an update where we can VS other #1 players globally or at least play in different servers? How did you guys find out about the 20k players per server? Lol dang though I’m pretty upset about that

"MakinATrillion;c-1427979" wrote:
@Liath @Anakin_Skywalker Honeslty that’s a let down. Finding out about that sucks. Like this game is suppose to be long term so why not play against other players who are also rank #1? Would there be an update where we can VS other #1 players globally or at least play in different servers? How did you guys find out about the 20k players per server? Lol dang though I’m pretty upset about that

That's called "Territory Wars." It's a guild event. There used to be tournaments, but there was a pretty vocal group of peopke that disliked them, so they were discontinued.

"MakinATrillion;c-1427979" wrote:
@Liath @Anakin_Skywalker Honeslty that’s a let down. Finding out about that sucks. Like this game is suppose to be long term so why not play against other players who are also rank #1? Would there be an update where we can VS other #1 players globally or at least play in different servers? How did you guys find out about the 20k players per server? Lol dang though I’m pretty upset about that

There are people who, in the course of rerolling accounts to try to get the best start, would make a whole bunch of accounts and level them to 28 (when arena opens) to see where they fell on the leaderboard at the time. The goal being for the account they wanted to actually use to be at the top of a new leaderboard that just started. So they would join and see the rank steadily go down until it got close to 20,000 and then the next one would wind up at rank 10 something, so they knew the last leaderboard had filled up and a new one had started. Then they would have the account they planned to use hit level 28. None of this is important except to say that it's well-established.

This system is highly unlikely to change. Arena is specifically designed so that you are competing against people who have been playing roughly as long as you have and are on a level playing field. And the Devs have said that they do not shuffle leaderboards and have no intention of doing so.

"crzydroid;c-1427983" wrote:

"MakinATrillion;c-1427979" wrote:
@Liath @Anakin_Skywalker Honeslty that’s a let down. Finding out about that sucks. Like this game is suppose to be long term so why not play against other players who are also rank #1? Would there be an update where we can VS other #1 players globally or at least play in different servers? How did you guys find out about the 20k players per server? Lol dang though I’m pretty upset about that

That's called "Territory Wars." It's a guild event. There used to be tournaments, but there was a pretty vocal group of peopke that disliked them, so they were discontinued.

Did Territory War just come out? Like isn’t there a Guild Verizon of it I’m guessing the one with the 25 member minimum.

@Liath thanks for that information, and surprising that people went through all that to become rank #1 and I guess man I hope they do change something so that we can do high competition like a tournament mode or something, but hey the game is still pretty awesome so I can’t really complain. Learn something new everyday

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but there are different payout times. Each time zone has its own time to get into place. So there are a total of 24 possible 1st Place postions per shard every day.

"MakinATrillion;c-1428016" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-1427983" wrote:

"MakinATrillion;c-1427979" wrote:
@Liath @Anakin_Skywalker Honeslty that’s a let down. Finding out about that sucks. Like this game is suppose to be long term so why not play against other players who are also rank #1? Would there be an update where we can VS other #1 players globally or at least play in different servers? How did you guys find out about the 20k players per server? Lol dang though I’m pretty upset about that

That's called "Territory Wars." It's a guild event. There used to be tournaments, but there was a pretty vocal group of peopke that disliked them, so they were discontinued.

Did Territory War just come out? Like isn’t there a Guild Verizon of it I’m guessing the one with the 25 member minimum.

@Liath thanks for that information, and surprising that people went through all that to become rank #1 and I guess man I hope they do change something so that we can do high competition like a tournament mode or something, but hey the game is still pretty awesome so I can’t really complain. Learn something new everyday

Territory Wars is what you are thinking of with the 25 member minimum. It's a guild vs. guild event in which you face a variety of teams placed on defense by the other guild. So that would allow you to compete against folks you don't usually get to compete against in your own arena, but not in an arena setting.

Squad tournaments were miserable and full of hackers. They also had a bunch of different leaderboards anyway. It could be different people than your arena and was divided differently, but it was still divided. There is no mode that has thrown every player of the game together in a single competition.

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and then, after a day or so, the OP's gonna be like.
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Sorry man. Dis game.... dis game.......

@Liath couldn’t hackers just hack Squad arena or territory wars? It sounds like a Squad Arena what your talking about, hopefully they are revising it to bring out another game mode like that so we can all compete against each other cause that would be pretty awesome. So I’m guessing Fleet Arena is the same thing like Squad Arena then right? Aren’t games like a clash of Clans worldwide basically? You’ve been helping me out since day one man I appreciate that, you’ve must been in the game for a while

"MakinATrillion;c-1428267" wrote:
@Liath couldn’t hackers just hack Squad arena or territory wars? It sounds like a Squad Arena what your talking about, hopefully they are revising it to bring out another game mode like that so we can all compete against each other cause that would be pretty awesome. So I’m guessing Fleet Arena is the same thing like Squad Arena then right? Aren’t games like a clash of Clans worldwide basically? You’ve been helping me out since day one man I appreciate that, you’ve must been in the game for a while

I believe the same hacking methods can be used in arena, but they aren't as effective. Tournaments didn't have the same mechanism as arena where you switch places with the person you beat. It was a points system instead, and you paid ally points for the privilege of using characters multiple times (with increasing costs the more you wanted to use them). Hacking meant that people could win battles with their weakest characters and accumulate more points at lower cost. In arena, if you put in a completely junky team, you could use a hack to win and rise up, but then everybody would target you and push you back down. And there's no real reason to if you have any good teams since there's no limit on the use of characters in arena. Plus it becomes a lot more obvious and easy to report, whereas in the tournaments there was no way to see what teams people were using on offense.

Yes, fleet arena is the same as squad arena. Not necessarily the same groupings of people, but it's divided similarly based on when you unlock fleet.

ETA: It's entirely possible people are doing this in TW, I have no idea. You'd probably need a significant amount of the guild members in on it to make a big difference. The good thing there, though, is that even if you lose, the rewards aren't that much worse than if you win, depending on your bracket. With tournaments, it was an enormous difference, because the people at the top were getting a 7* character and the people at the bottom weren't even unlocking the character.

"Liath;c-1428276" wrote:

"MakinATrillion;c-1428267" wrote:
@Liath couldn’t hackers just hack Squad arena or territory wars? It sounds like a Squad Arena what your talking about, hopefully they are revising it to bring out another game mode like that so we can all compete against each other cause that would be pretty awesome. So I’m guessing Fleet Arena is the same thing like Squad Arena then right? Aren’t games like a clash of Clans worldwide basically? You’ve been helping me out since day one man I appreciate that, you’ve must been in the game for a while

I believe the same hacking methods can be used in arena, but they aren't as effective. Tournaments didn't have the same mechanism as arena where you switch places with the person you beat. It was a points system instead, and you paid ally points for the privilege of using characters multiple times (with increasing costs the more you wanted to use them). Hacking meant that people could win battles with their weakest characters and accumulate more points at lower cost. In arena, if you put in a completely junky team, you could use a hack to win and rise up, but then everybody would target you and push you back down. And there's no real reason to if you have any good teams since there's no limit on the use of characters in arena. Plus it becomes a lot more obvious and easy to report, whereas in the tournaments there was no way to see what teams people were using on offense.

Yes, fleet arena is the same as squad arena. Not necessarily the same groupings of people, but it's divided similarly based on when you unlock fleet.

ETA: It's entirely possible people are doing this in TW, I have no idea. You'd probably need a significant amount of the guild members in on it to make a big difference. The good thing there, though, is that even if you lose, the rewards aren't that much worse than if you win, depending on your bracket. With tournaments, it was an enormous difference, because the people at the top were getting a 7* character and the people at the bottom weren't even unlocking the character.

Yea that point system sounded like it would cause a lot of persistent problems and I’m assuming that Squad Arena is a relatively new mode that came out after tournaments? I figured that Fleet Arena would be the same as Squad Arena. That’s good that they did that in Territory wars. It must’ve been really bad then whenever tournaments came out it’s like the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. It makes me realize how relatively new this game still is. Especially when you think about the devs adding hardware abilities to the ships in the future