I decided to create a post where we could discuss droid comps and strategies for various comps and characters that are "Meta'The idea is for people to post their solutions for the various characters and combos that are notoriously tough for droids to beat.To make it a good strategy thread, i think a hood firms would be to start by naming the problem comp followed by either naming a droid counter or asking for one.I'll start with an example:Chirrut and BazeCounter I use is B2 and K2S0. Wait to tackle them until you have buff immunity on baze and daze on chirrut to take out chirrut. He's first unless you can't land buff immunity on Baze. Then Daze Baze and take him out first.

Wiggs + anything but chaseFor me what has worked by now is the great K2SO, some people daze Wedge I rather daze Biggs just to avoid the turn meter gain after crits too and since I run R2 I stun Wedge first and if I don't get to stun him is the first I take down with my first burstPS: Awesome idea man!

Zader + Sidious + Palpatine_____________________________I always Zerg down Sidious first. Palpatine second. Usually before either goes.Normally old Palps is first priority because droids seem to be extra susceptible to stuns (could just be in my head though). However, Sidious's fast AoE with DoTs just ends up being too much cumulative damage to survive with the Zader lead once his DoTs get added as well. There's no real required characters for this one outside of a faster than their Sidious Jawa Engineer for opening zerg and hk for tm shenanigans. No matter who is in the comp I AoE with B2 on cooldown. He's only necessary if they have taunters though. If Dooku is in the Comp K2 is a must. Other than those potential needs, just load up on heavy hitters.Zader is actually a relatively easy lead to take down in general.Zavage___________________________I personally have the best luck with this guy if I leave him for last. The trick to that is he has to be the last man standing while I have a full squad with most of their health and protection.Nihilus + Dooku + Sith Trooper__________________________Whenever Sith Trooper is in comp I always AoE with B2 on cooldown, along with any other auto taunter. Dooku is taken care of by bringing along K2S0 to Daze him. IG-88's healing immunity is another less effective solution to Dooku. IG-88 in general is great against Nihilus leads due to the massive damage and healing immunity. Both come in very handy against those massive regenerating health bars.@Chewie_says_Aaarww I know it's been a while, but didn't you used to beat Zeta Maul teams with droids under a Boba lead? Would you be up for sharing whatever you might recall of your strategies that worked with that comp?

Zeta QuiGon with GK_________________HK, B2, K2, 88, JEJE does the tm thing, and B2 wipes the foresight. (B2 is super clutch against Jedi as dodging an allies attack triggers the tm gain just like them getting damaged). K2 then dazes whoever needs Dazing. Dazing priority is Aayla, Anakin, GK. HK and 88 both AoE then. HK will get a followup single target attack, but 88 won't. I then proceed to AoE on cooldown and zerg GK down first. I use the opportunities of GK not taunting to reapply Daze, but GK is my main priority. By staying on GK I get to continue to crit as well as remove a whole host of problems that he represents: Crit immunty, Cleansing, retribution, massive assist. I can take a lot of Kenobis out before they get the assist off if I focus on him from the get go.After that, my kill order is JKA, Aayla, Yoda, QGJ, whoever...

"Woodroward;c-1194571" wrote:Zader + Sidious + Palpatine_____________________________@Chewie_says_Aaarww I know it's been a while, but didn't you used to beat Zeta Maul teams with droids under a Boba lead? Would you be up for sharing whatever you might recall of your strategies that worked with that comp?Jo, Boba lead was good, but it was more like a temporary fix, now with sith assassin in play it will be much harder to beat those squads. Back in the day, I used Boba(L), JE, 88, B2 and K2SO.

"Chewie_says_Aaarww;c-1208677" wrote:"Woodroward;c-1194571" wrote:Zader + Sidious + Palpatine_____________________________@Chewie_says_Aaarww I know it's been a while, but didn't you used to beat Zeta Maul teams with droids under a Boba lead? Would you be up for sharing whatever you might recall of your strategies that worked with that comp?Jo, Boba lead was good, but it was more like a temporary fix, now with sith assassin in play it will be much harder to beat those squads. Back in the day, I used Boba(L), JE, 88, B2 and K2SO. Right on. Thanks for responding. I think @Ig88isboss also said something about beating Zeta Maul teams after R2 came out, but I don't think he frequents these forums anymore. I'd really like to see some strats for all the droid problem comps and everyone's contribution helps. @Modulous @STRIKEBOMB Would you two be up for contributing?

Droid strats and comps in the meta

herradezjose
8 years ago
"Distavion;c-1213044" wrote:

droids dead man,droids dead...

I'm not in an old shard but I get top 20 almost everyday if I don't get late to do my battles before payout (work e.e). With a little push droids can become great asf again.
ExarTheKun
8 years ago
"Arimanius;c-1213485" wrote:
"Distavion;c-1213044" wrote:

droids dead man,droids dead...

I'm not in an old shard but I get top 20 almost everyday if I don't get late to do my battles before payout (work e.e). With a little push droids can become great asf again.

A little Grievous push.
almightywood
8 years ago
"Arimanius;c-1212935" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;c-1212918" wrote:
"Arimanius;c-1212881" wrote:
So guys I just did my zeta on R2D2 (The one that matters for droid at least) and I have doubts about how should I mod it to take advantage of his zeta, like going with as much protection as I can to give more protection to my droids or health (which they naturally lack) or going all out offense to increase the offense of my droids (which I don't lack but it means more raw power) what do you guys say?

Droids greatly lack in overall health so I say put it into protection. If you have protection primaries with offense secondaries that's even better. But R2 also needs a lot of speed so he can keep stunning people.

So protection primary with the best secondaries speed and offense I can find. gotcha.
Crit chance and potency are also really good secondaries to focus on for obvious reasons. I'd probably say speed first priority followed by offense, with crit chance a close 3rd, and finish up with potency. Obviously getting all the stats you want on a mod is rare, but with enough farming they come along.

I agree with focusing on protection as they will get more from R2 (14% of his max) vs. health (11-13%, 13% with K2S0 and Chopper in group).

Now stacking offense is weird. Sometimes a percentage offense can be better, sometimes flat increases are better. It depends on a few things. The more % offense primaries and secondaries you have, the better the flat increases become. How much of a difference it makes depends on the ability multiplier value (it can be seen on Swgoh.gg).

Now R2 has a 2.023 multiplier on his basic attack, which means that stacking offense very noticeably affects his basic damage. However he only has a .754 multipler on his AoE, so stacking offense on him won't make that damage go up all that noticeably.

Anybody with a really low damage multiplier on all their attacks (B2) won't benefit very much from stacking offense, and more gain would probably come from stacking even more of it on someone else.

Sorry for the digression, but I felt it was related.
almightywood
8 years ago
"Arimanius;c-1212935" wrote:
So protection primary with the best secondaries speed and offense I can find. gotcha.

Crit chance and potency are also really good secondaries to focus on for obvious reasons. I'd probably say speed first priority followed by offense, with crit chance a close 3rd, and finish up with potency. Obviously getting all the stats you want on a mod is rare, but with enough farming they come along.

I agree with focusing on protection as they will get more from R2 (14% of his max) vs. health (11-13%, 13% with K2S0 and Chopper in group).

Now stacking offense is weird. Sometimes a percentage offense can be better, sometimes flat increases are better. It depends on a few things. The more % offense primaries and secondaries you have, the better the flat increases become. How much of a difference it makes depends on the ability multiplier value (it can be seen on Swgoh.gg).

Now R2 has a 2.023 multiplier on his basic attack, which means that stacking offense very noticeably affects his basic damage. However he only has a .754 multipler on his AoE, so stacking offense on him won't make that damage go up all that noticeably.

Anybody with a really low damage multiplier on all their attacks won't benefit very much from stacking offense, and more gain would probably come from stacking even more of it on someone else.

Sorry for the digression, but I felt it was related.
STRlKEBOMB
8 years ago
"ExarTheKun;c-1213486" wrote:
"Arimanius;c-1213485" wrote:
"Distavion;c-1213044" wrote:

droids dead man,droids dead...

I'm not in an old shard but I get top 20 almost everyday if I don't get late to do my battles before payout (work e.e). With a little push droids can become great asf again.

A little Grievous push.

Hopefully it's not too far off. I hope Separatist September comes true :)

Or at least before The Last Jedi comes out
almightywood
8 years ago
Interesting side note about R2, number crunch zetad seems to restore some protection to my droids every node in galactic war. I usually beat it with just my droids, start with hk, 88, 86, K2, and JE. Sub B2 in for JE node 2, Sub R2 in for B2 node 3, Then usually run with that comp until node 11 or 12 unless I need to sub in B2 for one. I may sub in JE for 10, or 11 to heal a few people.
almightywood
8 years ago
I am thinking that Chopper may actually be preferable to B2 against Wiggs/Chaze combos too, but I am still on the fence about that. Wiping Baze's taunt with only one counterattack instead of two and a Wiggs triple to boot while reducing their opening tm on top of that is very tempting. It also severely limits the buff removals compared to with B2, and more or less lets Chirruts HoTs run amok. With Chopper in group, Baze would more than likely have to die before Chirrut.
herradezjose
8 years ago
@Woodroward ty man I really appreciate it and yeah I noticed the same thing with R2, I noticed first with his unique ability but then the zeta helps restore protection to the other droids. I also think chopper might be really useful, besides is the fastest droid and one of the fastest characters in the game, modded with speed mods it can be really fast besides reducing its own cooldowns and applying speed up to himself makes it a really good buff remover.
STRlKEBOMB
8 years ago
"Woodroward;c-1213587" wrote:
Interesting side note about R2, number crunch zetad seems to restore some protection to my droids every node in galactic war. I usually beat it with just my droids, start with hk, 88, 86, K2, and JE. Sub B2 in for JE node 2, Sub R2 in for B2 node 3, Then usually run with that comp until node 11 or 12 unless I need to sub in B2 for one. I may sub in JE for 10, or 11 to heal a few people.

It's not R2 that restores the protection. After each galactic war node your team recovers a small % of their protection
almightywood
8 years ago
"STRIKEBOMB;c-1214833" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-1213587" wrote:
Interesting side note about R2, number crunch zetad seems to restore some protection to my droids every node in galactic war. I usually beat it with just my droids, start with hk, 88, 86, K2, and JE. Sub B2 in for JE node 2, Sub R2 in for B2 node 3, Then usually run with that comp until node 11 or 12 unless I need to sub in B2 for one. I may sub in JE for 10, or 11 to heal a few people.

It's not R2 that restores the protection. After each galactic war node your team recovers a small % of their protection

Well my half health characters never had their protection restored in between matches before I ran with R2. He does increase protection for the droids. I wouldn't be surprised if it was giving it out in the fashion I have described. Otherwise that would just be some freaky timing with updates.

So I have been able to regularly beat at least one zeta maul team now. No sith assassin or Savage. One non-Sith. I beat it running HK, R2, K2, B2, & JE. I haven't been able to make a proper starting turn order, but it should certainly be: R2. B2. K2. HK.

R2 goes first and drops burning to get rid of evasion. This is an unevadeable attack that is happening while they are stealthed so they are guaranteed to not gain tm at this point. B2 goes second and buff wipes and drops buff immunity. They're likely to all go after this if they have Sith Assassin and most of them without her. K2S0 goes next to Daze whichever toon with buff immunity you wish to eliminate. From there it's a crit fest on that toon with no fear of stealth, dodging, or tm gain until they die.

Go ahead and drop AoE's on cooldown. Hold back on HK's at first if it seems like you're giving out too much tm. R2 and B2's debuffs are essential though, so should be spammed on cooldown.

With a Sith Assassin in group it becomes much harder, but only if she ends up being faster than Jawa Engineer. Once 200 speed is reached, SA will go first at equal character panel speeds under a Zeta maul lead, but Jawa Engineer really doesn't need that much more speed than her to go first anyway. As long as he does, it'll end up being a decent match I think.