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KlockoFett's avatar
7 years ago

Fleet energy doesn't count?

Fleet energy doesn't count towards 600 raid tix? On the day where the guild activity is specifically worded "use any energy in battles" this especially makes no sense. I mean, the operative word there is "any".
  • 110 was to throw us a bone? Lol. I don't know. The inconsistencies are what makes it difficult to discern.
  • "Klocko;c-1613851" wrote:
    110 was to throw us a bone? Lol. I don't know. The inconsistencies are what makes it difficult to discern.


    I'd guess that was so that if you waited a day you wouldn't always be losing out on tickets. Tickets cap at 150k, having it cost 120k and getting 30k a day means if you wait even just a day you're losing tickets no matter what you do. (Unless your guild has managed to uphold a perfect 600 for everyone since the day of it's creation, which certainly isn't true for a lot of guilds.)
  • "DarjeloSalas;c-1613849" wrote:
    The devs don’t exactly help us figure this out by being consistent though, do they?

    Some days the daily activity is directly linked to your 600, on others it isn’t.

    On challenge day, ship challenges count; but on arena battle day, ship arena battles don’t count.

    They wouldn’t need to do any rearrangement of raid ticket pricing if they changed daily total to 800, though, as that would make guild daily total 40,000. At current launch prices there is no raid that would be unaffordable on, say, Monday that would then lead to a wasted tickets on the Tuesday.

    In fact, I’m now wondering why they chose 110K for heroic Sith launch cost. 120K seemed more in keeping with the rancor - tank progression.


    I don't understand your first comment, the daily challenges has absolutely no connection to daily 600
  • "Klocko;d-177780" wrote:
    Fleet energy doesn't count towards 600 raid tix? On the day where the guild activity is specifically worded "use any energy in battles" this especially makes no sense. I mean, the operative word there is "any".


    These are two different things. Fleet energy doesn't count towards the daily 600 tickets. Fleet energy does count toward "use any energy."
  • "DarjeloSalas;c-1614132" wrote:
    "Jaxom;c-1613921" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1613849" wrote:
    The devs don’t exactly help us figure this out by being consistent though, do they?

    Some days the daily activity is directly linked to your 600, on others it isn’t.

    On challenge day, ship challenges count; but on arena battle day, ship arena battles don’t count.

    They wouldn’t need to do any rearrangement of raid ticket pricing if they changed daily total to 800, though, as that would make guild daily total 40,000. At current launch prices there is no raid that would be unaffordable on, say, Monday that would then lead to a wasted tickets on the Tuesday.

    In fact, I’m now wondering why they chose 110K for heroic Sith launch cost. 120K seemed more in keeping with the rancor - tank progression.


    I don't understand your first comment, the daily challenges has absolutely no connection to daily 600


    When the daily challenge is “light side battles” or “dark side battles” or “hard node battles”, it absolutely does.


    Which is where the inconsistencies lie here
  • "DarjeloSalas;c-1614132" wrote:
    "Jaxom;c-1613921" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1613849" wrote:
    The devs don’t exactly help us figure this out by being consistent though, do they?

    Some days the daily activity is directly linked to your 600, on others it isn’t.

    On challenge day, ship challenges count; but on arena battle day, ship arena battles don’t count.

    They wouldn’t need to do any rearrangement of raid ticket pricing if they changed daily total to 800, though, as that would make guild daily total 40,000. At current launch prices there is no raid that would be unaffordable on, say, Monday that would then lead to a wasted tickets on the Tuesday.

    In fact, I’m now wondering why they chose 110K for heroic Sith launch cost. 120K seemed more in keeping with the rancor - tank progression.


    I don't understand your first comment, the daily challenges has absolutely no connection to daily 600


    When the daily challenge is “light side battles” or “dark side battles” or “hard node battles”, it absolutely does.


    That just allows your energy spent to go towards two different goals. Daily guild activities and daily 600 have never been associated with each other. Yes, it happens to be that on some days there is some overlap between the two, but that doesn't mean that daily activity should hold any sway over what counts towards daily tickets. That's like saying arena battles should go towards daily tickets because on sundays they are the guild activity.....
  • "Klocko;c-1614150" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1614132" wrote:
    "Jaxom;c-1613921" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1613849" wrote:
    The devs don’t exactly help us figure this out by being consistent though, do they?

    Some days the daily activity is directly linked to your 600, on others it isn’t.

    On challenge day, ship challenges count; but on arena battle day, ship arena battles don’t count.

    They wouldn’t need to do any rearrangement of raid ticket pricing if they changed daily total to 800, though, as that would make guild daily total 40,000. At current launch prices there is no raid that would be unaffordable on, say, Monday that would then lead to a wasted tickets on the Tuesday.

    In fact, I’m now wondering why they chose 110K for heroic Sith launch cost. 120K seemed more in keeping with the rancor - tank progression.


    I don't understand your first comment, the daily challenges has absolutely no connection to daily 600


    When the daily challenge is “light side battles” or “dark side battles” or “hard node battles”, it absolutely does.


    Which is where the inconsistencies lie here


    Nope. Because the 600 tickets is and always has come from the same sources. It doesn’t matter if the guild activity is arena battles or spend any energy, that 600 is always—consistently—regular and cantina energy. Similarly, when the daily activity is “spend dark side energy” you still have your light side energy contributing to the 600.

    There’s no inconsistency.
  • "DarjeloSalas;c-1614340" wrote:
    "Jaxom;c-1614202" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1614132" wrote:
    "Jaxom;c-1613921" wrote:
    "DarjeloSalas;c-1613849" wrote:
    The devs don’t exactly help us figure this out by being consistent though, do they?

    Some days the daily activity is directly linked to your 600, on others it isn’t.

    On challenge day, ship challenges count; but on arena battle day, ship arena battles don’t count.

    They wouldn’t need to do any rearrangement of raid ticket pricing if they changed daily total to 800, though, as that would make guild daily total 40,000. At current launch prices there is no raid that would be unaffordable on, say, Monday that would then lead to a wasted tickets on the Tuesday.

    In fact, I’m now wondering why they chose 110K for heroic Sith launch cost. 120K seemed more in keeping with the rancor - tank progression.


    I don't understand your first comment, the daily challenges has absolutely no connection to daily 600


    When the daily challenge is “light side battles” or “dark side battles” or “hard node battles”, it absolutely does.


    That just allows your energy spent to go towards two different goals. Daily guild activities and daily 600 have never been associated with each other. Yes, it happens to be that on some days there is some overlap between the two, but that doesn't mean that daily activity should hold any sway over what counts towards daily tickets. That's like saying arena battles should go towards daily tickets because on sundays they are the guild activity.....


    It’s not like saying that at all. My point was it’s inconsistent around ships. The ship challenges count but ship arena battles don’t count towards your guild daily activity.

    On the days where guild daily activity is “light side energy” or “dark side energy” etc you cannot contribute to the guild activity without contributing to your 600, so for you to state that they have “never been associated with each other” or “have absolutely no connection” is misguided. Sure, on some days of the week the guild activity and 600 tickets are unrelated, but on more than half of the week they are inextricably linked.

    The inconstancy is exaggerated now with an entire energy stream not registering as part of the 600 tickets, when all other energy does.





    In the end of the day, they built the daily tickets framework, and the daily challenges framework with certain limits. If you want to have them add pieces to them, that will cause the limits to be increased to match.
  • They already came out and said that, .. . Dev post re ship energy that if they included it it would go to 900 daily and raid costs would be adjusted higher to keep the same number per week per raid.

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