So, trying to break this out from the megas, since stuff gets buried there, but is there any information about how Corrupted Battle Meditation interacts with these debuffs in particular?BSF's new unique says (when under a DR lead)enemies inflicted with Corrupted Battle Meditation can't inflict debuffs on enemies when they use an ability (excludes Raid Bosses)Fracture, Isolate, JKR's Marked, RJT's Healing Immunity... these are all locked buffs that cannot be evaded or resisted. But will CBM prevent them?Edit: decided to bring this here after seeing someone else ask on reddit

"StarSon;c-1812314" wrote:"Kyno;c-1812299" wrote:"StarSon;d-198926" wrote:So, trying to break this out from the megas, since stuff gets buried there, but is there any information about how Corrupted Battle Meditation interacts with these debuffs in particular?BSF's new unique says (when under a DR lead)enemies inflicted with Corrupted Battle Meditation can't inflict debuffs on enemies when they use an ability (excludes Raid Bosses)Fracture, Isolate, JKR's Marked, RJT's Healing Immunity... these are all locked buffs that cannot be evaded or resisted. But will CBM prevent them?Edit: decided to bring this here after seeing someone else ask on redditYes, the battle corrupted toon will not be able to output a debuff when they use an ability.Interesting. Is there a dev confirmation coming?I believe so, but if I can find it I will work on that.

It's not a power creep, it's a power leap. Observe:

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1812337" wrote:"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.Of course there would be. But it's not even Revan breaking them. It's a 3* marquee toon.Sure, except if you only have her at 3*, then you don't have Darth Revan, and CBM only behaves that way under his leader ability.

"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.People always complain about this, but the fact of the matter is that at a certain point, power creep becomes unavoidable. Keeping the game interesting means making it more complex, and you can't introduce more complex kits without eventually creating synergies that mean old ones get left in the dust. That's why they do reworks, to keep (some of) the older stuff somewhat relevant.Additionally, they need to drive purchases to make money, and there wouldn't be much incentive to spend for a new character if there were already a dozen characters that do the same thing with slight variations.

"Jarvind;c-1812348" wrote:"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.People always complain about this, but the fact of the matter is that at a certain point, power creep becomes unavoidable. Keeping the game interesting means making it more complex, and you can't introduce more complex kits without eventually creating synergies that mean old ones get left in the dust. That's why they do reworks, to keep (some of) the older stuff somewhat relevant.Additionally, they need to drive purchases to make money, and there wouldn't be much incentive to spend for a new character if there were already a dozen characters that do the same thing with slight variations.Creep is fine, taking massive leaps over the heads of previous power leaps just leads to many useless toons and people feel like they don't get to use their investments anymore except in PvE content, hence the emergence of GA for those that like to use all their toons in a PvP setting, but then that's still dominated based on whether or not you have the top team available and whether or not your opponents are bothering to try.

Fracture, Isolate, Marked with CBM

Persimius
New Scout
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1812299" wrote:
"StarSon;d-198926" wrote:
So, trying to break this out from the megas, since stuff gets buried there, but is there any information about how Corrupted Battle Meditation interacts with these debuffs in particular?

BSF's new unique says (when under a DR lead)
enemies inflicted with Corrupted Battle Meditation can't inflict debuffs on enemies when they use an ability (excludes Raid Bosses)

Fracture, Isolate, JKR's Marked, RJT's Healing Immunity... these are all locked buffs that cannot be evaded or resisted. But will CBM prevent them?

Edit: decided to bring this here after seeing someone else ask on reddit

Yes, the battle corrupted toon will not be able to output a debuff when they use an ability.

Interesting. Is there a dev confirmation coming?
trystanspyder
6 years ago
So wait - Fallen Bast goes, my team all gets CBM automatically (which can't be dispelled), and now Thrawn, Traya, RJT all lose some of their strongest assets?

Yeah, no power creep there.
Persimius
New Scout
6 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1812330" wrote:
So wait - Fallen Bast goes, my team all gets CBM automatically (which can't be dispelled), and now Thrawn, Traya, RJT all lose some of their strongest assets?

Presumably

Yeah, no power creep there.

Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.
trystanspyder
6 years ago
"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:

Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.

Of course there would be. But it's not even Revan breaking them. It's a 3* marquee toon.
Kmyre
6 years ago
A perfect example of power creep not being the only way forwar is CLS and, to some extent Finn and RJT. They have been around for quite some time and yet, remain relevant. I strongly believe these toons were one of the bigger booms this game have ever received and are shining examples of good character design. What they all have in common is that they felt OP at release. I’m hoping that the revans will be looked upon as such eventually in the future.
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
Fracture, Isolate etc. cannot be resisted so I assume you can apply it through CBM.
TheRealNickEZ
6 years ago
Guess we’ll know on Monday...
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"Kmyre;c-1812511" wrote:
A perfect example of power creep not being the only way forwar is CLS and, to some extent Finn and RJT. They have been around for quite some time and yet, remain relevant. I strongly believe these toons were one of the bigger booms this game have ever received and are shining examples of good character design. What they all have in common is that they felt OP at release. I’m hoping that the revans will be looked upon as such eventually in the future.

I mean, Danger Zone used to be a meta team. It's a joke now, for the most part. Everything eventually falls out of the spotlight.
TheRealNickEZ
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1812523" wrote:
"Ultra;c-1812513" wrote:
Fracture, Isolate etc. cannot be resisted so I assume you can apply it through CBM.

The toon is not resisting it, they toon trying to apply it is being "blocked" from doing so.

"TheRealNickEZ;c-1812515" wrote:
Guess we’ll know on Monday...

Trying to push for some responses out today.

Ok cool, either way I bet we find out Monday, since that’s when he’s dropping for sure, they wouldn’t, push his release any further, there’s just no conceivable way it would be pushed any further, right? Haha
NyKynoe
6 years ago
"TheRealNickEZ;c-1812530" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1812523" wrote:
"Ultra;c-1812513" wrote:
Fracture, Isolate etc. cannot be resisted so I assume you can apply it through CBM.

The toon is not resisting it, they toon trying to apply it is being "blocked" from doing so.

"TheRealNickEZ;c-1812515" wrote:
Guess we’ll know on Monday...

Trying to push for some responses out today.

Ok cool, either way I bet we find out Monday, since that’s when he’s dropping for sure, they wouldn’t, push his release any further, there’s just no conceivable way it would be pushed any further, right? Haha

Sure, let's say that. :wink: