So the past two days I've noticed my Gear 13 GG is not hitting nearly as hard as he was. I was consistently getting 150k-180k crits on his AOE, the past two days I'm barely scratching 70k. Nothing has changed in my modding on the team, everything equal on the other team more or less (there's no major changes - same G13 characters, etc).Now, I can't get the same hits, I'm consistently losing with it. Keep in mind, this isn't just some one-off arena match where the numbers didn't work. It went working extremely well on SAturday (with 15 arena battles used - all of them basically the same) to dropping off a cliff on Monday and Tuesday - where none of them worked that way.Anyone experiencing anything similar?

They don't stealth nerf -- they always address pressing issues and announce whether it will be nerfed or not>see JKA + Jedi Revan>see JKA + Nightsisters

Stealth nerfs are a slap in the face that make the game literally unplayable and make my wallet = closed.

If your damage has dropped drastically t3 is probably dying. If your damage has dropped a little it may be the amount of debuffs you are managing to apply. There has not been a stealth nerf. I'm still getting big numbers in arena.

"Broxxor;c-1904761" wrote:Perhaps, but it doesn't make sense that he's suddenly stopped hitting as hard as he was.Post a video

"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905406" wrote:"TVF;c-1905401" wrote:"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905396" wrote:They don't nerf your hero, they tweak the AI. It's a loophole they added and admitted a long time back. First they did this in GW now where ever. Like when RJT squads destroyed STR they were changed via the AI so their stats elsewhere were uneffected. Source on any of this?Waited for your reply. You know as well as i do this happens. Instead prove me wrong with evidence. Now run along lolNo, I don't. You've made a claim with no evidence. Me having to prove you wrong is not how this works.They changed the "matchmaking" for GW, then they capped the power on the teams. There was no change to the AI, unless you can point to the post where they said there was.In STR they changed the expose damage because it was initially too high, which lowered JTR scores. They didn't touch the squad itself, and even if they did, that has nothing to do with AI anyway since you're on offense (unless you're on auto for some crazy reason, and good luck with that no matter whether they changed anything or not).

General Grievous - stealth nerf????

tvsfrink
6 years ago
"AngelVazzana;c-1905465" wrote:
"TVF;c-1905450" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1905447" wrote:
"TVF;c-1905401" wrote:
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905396" wrote:
They don't nerf your hero, they tweak the AI. It's a loophole they added and admitted a long time back. First they did this in GW now where ever. Like when RJT squads destroyed STR they were changed via the AI so their stats elsewhere were uneffected.

Source on any of this?

They did change the AI on JKR when he used to start by always marking Traya. That made it easier for Traya teams to work around JKR, so they made it randomize is marked target.

Again, source?

I'm aware of JKR marking Traya (or DN, maybe if no Traya), whereas with other toons it's more random (like with CLS/Han/Chewie). What I don't remember is where they said it. I don't run Traya against JKR so I have no "feel" ;)

Happy to admit I'm wrong if someone can actually point to a statement showing this stuff happened.

@Nikoms565 is 100% correct in this. I do remember them saying this about changing the AI. They made it to where JKR targeted traya but if traya wasn't there they went straight after DN. I personally don't know how to find this info on the forums but he is speaking the truth. I remember reading it and thinking wow that's not right that they would do this just to help Revan out. It seems both revans and Malak get the special treatment always which blows my mind

I'm saying it was always like that, but neither of us has any proof so it's irrelevant.
Nikoms565
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1905473" wrote:
"AngelVazzana;c-1905465" wrote:
"TVF;c-1905450" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1905447" wrote:
"TVF;c-1905401" wrote:
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905396" wrote:
They don't nerf your hero, they tweak the AI. It's a loophole they added and admitted a long time back. First they did this in GW now where ever. Like when RJT squads destroyed STR they were changed via the AI so their stats elsewhere were uneffected.

Source on any of this?

They did change the AI on JKR when he used to start by always marking Traya. That made it easier for Traya teams to work around JKR, so they made it randomize is marked target.

Again, source?

I'm aware of JKR marking Traya (or DN, maybe if no Traya), whereas with other toons it's more random (like with CLS/Han/Chewie). What I don't remember is where they said it. I don't run Traya against JKR so I have no "feel" ;)

Happy to admit I'm wrong if someone can actually point to a statement showing this stuff happened.

@Nikoms565 is 100% correct in this. I do remember them saying this about changing the AI. They made it to where JKR targeted traya but if traya wasn't there they went straight after DN. I personally don't know how to find this info on the forums but he is speaking the truth. I remember reading it and thinking wow that's not right that they would do this just to help Revan out. It seems both revans and Malak get the special treatment always which blows my mind

I'm saying it was always like that, but neither of us has any proof so it's irrelevant.

Proof...

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/196058/so-after-2-20-patch-revan-no-longer-marks-traya-first-100-of-the-time-wai/p1
tvsfrink
6 years ago
What's the source there? gg? I didn't read through everything.

If it's from gg (from what I know that's been a reliable source in the past), I stand corrected. At least regarding that one issue. Doesn't mean there's a stealth nerf here, especially since this isn't an AI issue.
Nikoms565
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1905491" wrote:
What's the source there? gg? I didn't read through everything.

If it's from gg (from what I know that's been a reliable source in the past), I stand corrected. At least regarding that one issue. Doesn't mean there's a stealth nerf here, especially since this isn't an AI issue.

That's the funny thing about stealth nerfs - they don't tell you in advance. ;)
angelvazzana1
6 years ago
"ZAP;c-1905472" wrote:
I’m not seeing how changing the AI in arena would affect damage so drastically.

No I totally agree with you.... Changing the AI still wouldn't cause that big of a drop in our damage out put. Which is why I'm so upset and confused. I just tried 4 more battles. Lost everyone and never hit above 83k now. So going from 149k and 179k to now the highest 83k smh. Something is definitely wrong here.
phern1
6 years ago
The revan change was when drevan was released. Revan would mark anyone on trio team, whiners whined, they changed it back so that traya always gets marked.
phern1
6 years ago
Looks like they fixed it back in February
yohann269
6 years ago
If GG has CBM his Critical chance is -60%, most likely that's the issue with GG not hitting as hard. Best thing to do is record the battles to see what happens.
treebunner
6 years ago
"Ultra;c-1905547" wrote:
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905406" wrote:
"TVF;c-1905401" wrote:
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1905396" wrote:
They don't nerf your hero, they tweak the AI. It's a loophole they added and admitted a long time back. First they did this in GW now where ever. Like when RJT squads destroyed STR they were changed via the AI so their stats elsewhere were uneffected.

Source on any of this?

Waited for your reply. You know as well as i do this happens. Instead prove me wrong with evidence. Now run along lol
You promised me one million dollars and I am going to sue you for not paying

Prove me wrong with evidence in court that you never promised me

This is what your argument sounds like

As others pointed out, tweaking the AI does not affect the damage values. Not sure what AI tweaks they did to JTR teams against Sith Raid but that raid wasn’t meant to be auto’d and Darth Nihilus is always random on who he targets or annihilates

I think the burden of proof is with the one that makes the claim so in the case of your 1 million dollars he should present the data instead of asking you to disprove his argument.

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