"Qeltar;132418" wrote:
7. I've repeatedly called for Poe to be de-nerfed since they went too far
"Mephisto_style;132858" wrote:
The game is broken with such fast characters having such damage and assists.
In the top 50 the battles last less than 1 minute....
"RAYRAY;133061" wrote:
My 5* Rey in level 7 gear (still a beast in arena) with a speed of 140, goes LAST on my team. QGJ, Yoda, Sid, Lumi and Rey take on all comers. I have been in first since I got Yoda.
ETA: I should say that I can beat any team on offense. The issue is that even if my yoda, sid and QGJ go before their entire team, on defense I will most likely lose. I would bet that if I faced an identical team as mine, which I have except sub out Sid for Leia or GS, I would win over the AI 90% of the time.
ETA2: The game isn't broken, there is more parody in arena now than ever before with the Poe nonsense. The top 4 teams (all I can see right now are). 1. Poe lead, QGJ, Yoda, Rey and GS 2. Me, 3. Sid lead, Dooku, Lumi, Poe, and IG-86, 4. QGJ lead, GS, FOTP, Old Ben, Yoda. The game is not broken, it is better than it was before the update.
"Qeltar;131648" wrote:
I'm not sure how others play this team but I don't even bother with the Yoda buff copying/distributing thing. It takes too long on a team oriented around speed.
The two most important things Yoda does against most teams:
1. Immediately give everyone Tenacity Up. This wreaks havoc with all the debuffs people rely on, including stuns, DOTs, exposes and turn meter reductions. I haven't had a chance to test this against a properly leveled Old Ben but the level 59 one I faced in GW today, not one debuff stuck. Also makes you effectively immune to heal-blocking.
2. Wait for the right time and use his ability that reduces turn meter by 40%. If they are below 50%, even better.
Any sort of buff stealing I do later on just as an added bonus, but usually isn't needed.
Tenacity Up is key and you want it out there ASAP. The GIFs of the whole team countering Kylo are fun and all, but if you wait 3 turns to use Battle Meditation you are going to lose against a top team.
"Mephisto_style;132229" wrote:
I think the devs are going to just rotate what types of teams can be top every now and then
Think about it. It would be really atupid to have a Yoda event for a crummy Yoda.
Soon HP will be king, then AOE, then something else....
"FakeRobbo;134001" wrote:"Mephisto_style;132229" wrote:
I think the devs are going to just rotate what types of teams can be top every now and then
Think about it. It would be really atupid to have a Yoda event for a crummy Yoda.
Soon HP will be king, then AOE, then something else....
They are trying to make a game where every single character can be put into a well built team and be competitive.
"FakeRobbo;134001" wrote:"Mephisto_style;132229" wrote:
I think the devs are going to just rotate what types of teams can be top every now and then
Think about it. It would be really atupid to have a Yoda event for a crummy Yoda.
Soon HP will be king, then AOE, then something else....
There is no reason why they would do this or even want to do this to the game. They want a balanced game, not rotating metas. They are trying to make a game where every single character can be put into a well built team and be competitive. It's just bad practise to want one type of ability to be the best at any one time.
"DarthMasterShawn;131668" wrote:"Mephisto_style;14073" wrote:
That combination or swap dooku or lumi for rey. Their entire team goes first... All before Poe, lol...
What exactly was it that you hated about Poe? Dejavu...
By the time my team can kill 1 or 2 if that then Yoda gives the remaining toons 5 BUFFS!
The gripes on Poe were
1. Speed and TM
2. Coin Toss
3. Team is dead before it can move
4. Fairly cookie cutter teams
Poe is still quick with turn meter
The coin toss is gone except on a tie
Teams still die before you get a turn
Teams are still fairly cookie cutter, just different shape now.
There is a bit more variation, not too much. Slower toons just are not that viable the damage is too great for them to be much of a factor, if any. My prenerf team still keeps me fluctuating from #1-10. My new idea team would have taken first today on first trial, with 3 of them not even what I consider ready, had I not been locked.
The sad thing here is no 1 or 2 toons make it this way. As @Qeltar has stated repeatedly it is the damage to health that is off balance. There are some very great toons that are simply too slow to be viable in PVP due to it. That is what needs fixing, not a toon here or toon there.
Oh here is a point to ponder. We had the who goes first coin toss that drew complaints. Now we have the Whose Dooku's stun goes off, whose crit goes off coin tosses instead. Same issue, just different shape.
I will be honest though I LOVE, I mean LOVE the new speed system it allows the thinkers to truly craft.
Oh and to the OP that is because with QGJ lead Yoda, Dooku, and QGJ are the fastest in the game(Though if I'm not mistaken a maxed Ani would be faster than QGJ) Dooku and Yoda are top 4 anyways no buff required,lol. GS no buffs taken into account is the 5th fastest. So that build is speedy, but easily beatable. I face 2 teams with builds like that daily in my top 10 and have yet to lose to it.
"Phipps;133840" wrote:
There 2 whale teams on my shard no one can beat.
QGJ lead
Yoda or Rey
Ben
Poe
Gs
They don't leave the top 3 even when they are not active.
