Han Solo's bonus action

"Random9;c-1549314" wrote:

"electricnick260;c-1548486" wrote:
My vader goes before Raid han at least once in every five battles I do against a team with Raid Han. I've got my vader modded to have 214 speed before his unique takes effect. It's kinda funny actually to watch vader go and kill raid han before his bonus turn even takes place. I've done it twice. Characters like Vader and characters under a zeta maul leadership can sometimes go before raid han, makes for a really interesting battle.

@electricnick260 No. This doesn’t happen. If your Vader has 1000000 speed he won’t go before raid han. If it’s arena, han always goes first unless another hand stuns him. If you could record this I’d be more inclined to believe you.

As it has been previously stated in this thread, Han takes a BONUS TURN therefore, he can, and will, be outrun by some characters if their speeds are high enough. A Darth Vader with 300 speed can in fact out run a Han with 136 speed. It's rare, but it happens. Like I have said several times, IT'S RARE!

"electricnick260;c-1549315" wrote:

"Random9;c-1549314" wrote:

"electricnick260;c-1548486" wrote:
My vader goes before Raid han at least once in every five battles I do against a team with Raid Han. I've got my vader modded to have 214 speed before his unique takes effect. It's kinda funny actually to watch vader go and kill raid han before his bonus turn even takes place. I've done it twice. Characters like Vader and characters under a zeta maul leadership can sometimes go before raid han, makes for a really interesting battle.

@electricnick260 No. This doesn’t happen. If your Vader has 1000000 speed he won’t go before raid han. If it’s arena, han always goes first unless another hand stuns him. If you could record this I’d be more inclined to believe you.

As it has been previously stated in this thread, Han takes a BONUS TURN therefore, he can, and will, be outrun by some characters if their speeds are high enough. A Darth Vader with 300 speed can in fact out run a Han with 136 speed. It's rare, but it happens. Like I have said several times, IT'S RARE!

Only in TW or GW, NOT in Arena.

"electricnick260;c-1549315" wrote:

"Random9;c-1549314" wrote:

"electricnick260;c-1548486" wrote:
My vader goes before Raid han at least once in every five battles I do against a team with Raid Han. I've got my vader modded to have 214 speed before his unique takes effect. It's kinda funny actually to watch vader go and kill raid han before his bonus turn even takes place. I've done it twice. Characters like Vader and characters under a zeta maul leadership can sometimes go before raid han, makes for a really interesting battle.

@electricnick260 No. This doesn’t happen. If your Vader has 1000000 speed he won’t go before raid han. If it’s arena, han always goes first unless another hand stuns him. If you could record this I’d be more inclined to believe you.

As it has been previously stated in this thread, Han takes a BONUS TURN therefore, he can, and will, be outrun by some characters if their speeds are high enough. A Darth Vader with 300 speed can in fact out run a Han with 136 speed. It's rare, but it happens. Like I have said several times, IT'S RARE!

Not in arena, as mentioned, and record it in Arena to prove your wild claim

"Trent_Illician;c-1549260" wrote:
My mistake on saying "Bonus Action", VS "Bonus Turn" it definitely does say bonus turn. Now, for the sake of consistency why doesn't Bistan's Frenzy ability read "Whenever another ally uses a Special ability, this unit gains a bonus turn"?? Instead, it says "Whenever another ally uses a Special ability, this unit gains 100% turn meter".

I really think that the intention behind Shoots First did not include being beaten on initiative in TW. Also, sorry for bringing up what's clearly been brought up before, I didn't see a post.

Because they decided to word it differently, and in that case also the toon gaining TM may not be at 0 TM so they may have wanted to differentiate

"electricnick260;c-1549315" wrote:

"Random9;c-1549314" wrote:

"electricnick260;c-1548486" wrote:
My vader goes before Raid han at least once in every five battles I do against a team with Raid Han. I've got my vader modded to have 214 speed before his unique takes effect. It's kinda funny actually to watch vader go and kill raid han before his bonus turn even takes place. I've done it twice. Characters like Vader and characters under a zeta maul leadership can sometimes go before raid han, makes for a really interesting battle.

@electricnick260 No. This doesn’t happen. If your Vader has 1000000 speed he won’t go before raid han. If it’s arena, han always goes first unless another hand stuns him. If you could record this I’d be more inclined to believe you.

As it has been previously stated in this thread, Han takes a BONUS TURN therefore, he can, and will, be outrun by some characters if their speeds are high enough. A Darth Vader with 300 speed can in fact out run a Han with 136 speed. It's rare, but it happens. Like I have said several times, IT'S RARE!

you are mistaken. at the start of a match in arena or where the other team was not given TM from a previous match, no one has TM from speed. Han will have 100% TM, BB8 with other droids will have TM gained from a unique skill, and maul lead will give the TM from his lead. but toons do not gain TM naturally, when another toon has 100% TM, which Han would. so speed means nothing at that point in time.

WAD

Basically Han doesn't always shoot first (and Leia is thankful for that).

"Kyno;c-1548685" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1548577" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1548250" wrote:
It is not a bug. His ability does not give him the first action.

It gives him a bonus turn. A turn in game is 100% TM.

If multiple toons have 100% TM, then it is decided by RNG who goes first.

WAI.

I'm aware that it's WAI but it is in no way what is described. In case Han is stunned or has his TM reduced by an opponent before taking his bonus turn then he never gets his unresistable stunning bonus turn. In that case he never takes that bonus turn. Yes, he starts off with bonus TM, which is all fine and dandy, but he doesn't act as described. However much you twist and turn the wording in some cases he never takes that bonus turn.

Yes it is WAD, he recieved 100% TM. That is a "bonus turn" according to the in game mechanics that 100% TM is how you take a turn. If he was given a bonus action, then you would be correct because he didn't take an action.

See my above post, they made all toons subject to the same game mechanics, yes he can lose his ability in that situation, but that doesn't mean he wasnt given 100% TM he didn't earn naturally.

I am fully aware thst it's working as designed — but the wording in the description has been chosen very poorly.

Sith under a Zaul lead '... gain 20% turnmeter at the start of each encounter...'.

For consistency Han Solo's skill description should have read: " ... Han Solo gains 100% turnmeter at the start of each encounter. ... ". Using the words ' ... takes a bonus turn ... ' indicates that it's something completely different than a simple turn meter gain as described for Zaul's.

Furthermore, if taking a bonus turn really simply means ' to gain 100% turnmeter' how can Han then stun and ignore taunts during that bonus turn? The TM gain / bonus turn is instantaneous. It has no duration. It is during his first action that he can stun and ignore taunts — not during the instantaneous bonus turn.

Again: It's working as designed/intended. No change needed there. However it's NOT working as described.

Do you people remember the bonus tier of that imperial trooper assault battle? On the 7th stage (when we face han and chewie with other rebel generics), our troopers have full tm, as well as the opposing han. But, every single time han goes first. Ps. It only worked that way in bonus tier, not in previous ones.

It is currently WAI but i don't see why it can't work the way that bonus han did.