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9 years ago

Is ST Han a poor pairing with Akbar lead right now?

I'm toying with building an Akbar team and it seems like Akbar's leader ability works directly against ST Han's strengths right now. Am I correct in this assessment?

For one, I want to keep Han's taunt on for as long as possible, so speed up is not a good thing. But more importantly, having Han assist on a non-attacking ability use takes away a turn from another rebel like HRS who can hit a lot harder.

Any Akbar teams out there who can speak to this? Do you run ST Han on your team anyways because there's a benefit I'm not seeing? Thanks.
  • interesting last jedi, i have just 7*d sthan, and while i still need to gear and ability him up a bit, i dropped about 40 places overnight. i did really well on offence fwiw.

    With lumi lead, and admittedly (6*) daka instead of sthan, i usually only drop about 10-15. im around 110-60ish usually.
  • "9Fingers;417227" wrote:
    I've been looking at this setup too however wouldn't Hans speed with Akbar mean that the enemy Qui-Gon would just take your taunt straight off? Kind of takes away from one of the main benefits if you have to wait a turn to taunt.


    You don't have to use his taunt right away. You should always be paying attention to everyone's turn meter when planning your attacks, it's simple strategy.
  • Yeah, maybe it is my server. If i look at the 30 teams behind me, (after i wake up and drop to 20-30) they can all easily beat me. But they dont have what it takes to beat the top 5 teams anyway. (From what i can see). So dunno.

    Also when ur used to beating rg teams and u have enough rg teams to beat in your 5 battles, you might avoid han just because he is different. I know i did for a little while.

    So i would say my server is newer or less competetive than yours. But i will be switching in a better defensive team if need be. Things are alsways chang8ng fast. Right now i can climb back to top ten usually without a refresh and even take top spot with a refresh if the stars align. It is a crab crawl in the last hour.

    The only team i havent been able to beat is a lvl80 jedi team with 4 omegas. And JE droid squads. (I do some subbing for poe poggle droids) And my higest toon is 73, no omegas. Offense good ya. On your server theres maybe nothing new under the sun. :(for defense maybe put in dooku. Ai seems to target qgj frequently)
  • "BlowinLoadz;416972" wrote:
    "LastJedi;416947" wrote:
    Because of the TM, he gets his next turn faster than usual.


    Han only gets TM from using his basic though so by the time he gets the second heal it would be his third turn, if you haven't taken out all the DPS by his third turn you might be in trouble.


    FYI the reason why HRS is invaluable with the Akbar/Han pairing is that HRS can give his entire team TM. The typical AI sequence:

    HRS fires his special. If it crits he gets 100% TM and immediately fires his basic. With Omega there is a 40% chance that his basic gives everyone on his squad TM. This grants Han TM allowing him to taunt.

    If QGJ is on the other team it is even possible that HRS crit and stunned QGJ and if not other characters like Phasma with the HRS TM boost will go prior to QGJ dispelling Han's taunt. Note that each time Han is taunt he gives HRS more TM and when HRS uses that TM on his basic he gives even more TM. It is a true cascade.

    HRS is the straw that stirs the drink.
  • I run a AA Lead, Leia, Han, FOST, and 5s. Sometimes I'll switch 5s with Lumni .... I'll probably do that more often after the 5s nerf.

    Depending on my opponent, I normally
    Leia Attack
    Han Taunt
    FOST Defense Up + assist from AA, Han, or Leia.
    AA Tactical Genius which prompts a Leia or HAN Assist.
    Leia Stealth and get 100% turn meter.
    Leia attack with 25% chance of critical hit + chance for offense up

    Most of the time, my opponent get 1 hit in before all of this happens.
  • "SlyGambit;418622" wrote:
    "BlowinLoadz;416972" wrote:
    "LastJedi;416947" wrote:
    Because of the TM, he gets his next turn faster than usual.


    Han only gets TM from using his basic though so by the time he gets the second heal it would be his third turn, if you haven't taken out all the DPS by his third turn you might be in trouble.


    FYI the reason why HRS is invaluable with the Akbar/Han pairing is that HRS can give his entire team TM. The typical AI sequence:

    HRS fires his special. If it crits he gets 100% TM and immediately fires his basic. With Omega there is a 40% chance that his basic gives everyone on his squad TM. This grants Han TM allowing him to taunt.

    If QGJ is on the other team it is even possible that HRS crit and stunned QGJ and if not other characters like Phasma with the HRS TM boost will go prior to QGJ dispelling Han's taunt. Note that each time Han is taunt he gives HRS more TM and when HRS uses that TM on his basic he gives even more TM. It is a true cascade.

    HRS is the straw that stirs the drink.


    Yes I know how awesome HRS is, just scroll up and look at my team lol
  • "SlyGambit;412804" wrote:
    The only way it is bad is if you have a non-lead QGJ on the other side. With no other factors (ie HRS team TM boost) the timing works out that QGJ will go immediately after the taunt.


    Yup. Since QGJ is so prevalent, I normally hold off on STH taunt until his 2nd turn while eliminating QGJ.
  • "PrimeTime;418686" wrote:
    I run a AA Lead, Leia, Han, FOST, and 5s. Sometimes I'll switch 5s with Lumni .... I'll probably do that more often after the 5s nerf.

    Depending on my opponent, I normally
    Leia Attack
    Han Taunt
    FOST Defense Up + assist from AA, Han, or Leia.
    AA Tactical Genius which prompts a Leia or HAN Assist.
    Leia Stealth and get 100% turn meter.
    Leia attack with 25% chance of critical hit + chance for offense up

    Most of the time, my opponent get 1 hit in before all of this happens.



    That's a good sequence to gun for. Is there any toons you wished you had and you think would make the sequence better? I see a lot of Leia or HRS paired with Rey in the two DPS spots. Not sure if that makes the team too squishy or not. I cam see why you wanted another tanky character like FOST to soak up some damage while providing good support abilities. My thought was Phasma or eventually RG will take that role.
  • "orange12;418754" wrote:
    "PrimeTime;418686" wrote:
    I run a AA Lead, Leia, Han, FOST, and 5s. Sometimes I'll switch 5s with Lumni .... I'll probably do that more often after the 5s nerf.

    Depending on my opponent, I normally
    Leia Attack
    Han Taunt
    FOST Defense Up + assist from AA, Han, or Leia.
    AA Tactical Genius which prompts a Leia or HAN Assist.
    Leia Stealth and get 100% turn meter.
    Leia attack with 25% chance of critical hit + chance for offense up

    Most of the time, my opponent get 1 hit in before all of this happens.



    That's a good sequence to gun for. Is there any toons you wished you had and you think would make the sequence better? I see a lot of Leia or HRS paired with Rey in the two DPS spots. Not sure if that makes the team too squishy or not. I cam see why you wanted another tanky character like FOST to soak up some damage while providing good support abilities. My thought was Phasma or eventually RG will take that role.


    Han and AA die pretty fast so usually it's down to Leia, 5s, and FOST. Leia is usually in stealth so that leaves my opponents shooting at tanks that shoot back lol.