I've reached high enough rank in my Squad Arena that all I'm seeing now is JK Revan squads - and what's more the same JK Revan squad over and over. And to be honest, I'm the same. I'm using the same Revan squad as everyone else. So all that seems to determine the winner of any match now is who has the better mods. That's it.I just had a mirror match game - everything was identical between the two squads other than our mods. The match started and my opponent managed to kill one of my characters before I even had a turn. How boring is that? The game is no longer about squad construction or "rock paper scissors" as some on this forum claim, it's about who has been lucky enough to find the better mods. We might as well just compare mods at the start of each match and declare the winner based on that. The result will be the same.I'm now actively trying to get knocked down in the Arena by about 50 places or so. The rewards will not be as good but there was still some variety in squads there so at least the game will be more interesting to play. Because at the moment, it's just about mods and speed and that is just dull.I really hope something can be done to salvage this situation.

It’s always been about speed and mods.On a related topic give us 6x or 8x in game speed for QoL

I am not the fastest on my shard and I win very consistently.Yes speed is important, turn order and other stats can really help turn the tide in a battle.

"Liath;c-1770768" wrote:"Stenun;c-1770761" wrote:"Liath;c-1770749" wrote:Whether all the teams in arena are the same is a completely different issue than whether it’s “all about speed/mods.”But it's all about mods precisely BECAUSE everyone is running the same team.If we had the options of multiple squads all being equally viable, it would NOT be all about mods.What I'm saying is that the second sentence above is preferable. It's much more interesting to play and that makes for a better game.If the Devs could give us balanced squads instead of power-creeping every few weeks, mods would still matter but they'd matter less and we'd have a better game to play.Except, again, that’s not true. If slower Revan can beat faster Revan, then it is, in fact, NOT all about mods, unlike other metas in which it was. I have never seen a mirror match being won by the slower team. Ever. No matter the squad. And definitely not Revan.

"Stenun;c-1770803" wrote:"leef;c-1770800" wrote:It always comes down to mods And that's precisely what I'm complaining about. :smile: It would be a much better game if it did NOT "always come down to mods".It wouldn't, they introduced mods for a reason.

"leef;c-1770807" wrote:"Stenun;c-1770803" wrote:"leef;c-1770800" wrote:It always comes down to mods And that's precisely what I'm complaining about. :smile: It would be a much better game if it did NOT "always come down to mods".It wouldn't, they introduced mods for a reason. Agreed. As frustrating as mods are they make things like mirror matches much less frustrating than they used to be.

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hairglamfan
6 years ago
It’s always been about speed and mods.

On a related topic give us 6x or 8x in game speed for QoL
NyKynoe
6 years ago
I am not the fastest on my shard and I win very consistently.

Yes speed is important, turn order and other stats can really help turn the tide in a battle.
Stenun
6 years ago
"Liath;c-1770768" wrote:
"Stenun;c-1770761" wrote:
"Liath;c-1770749" wrote:
Whether all the teams in arena are the same is a completely different issue than whether it’s “all about speed/mods.”

But it's all about mods precisely BECAUSE everyone is running the same team.
If we had the options of multiple squads all being equally viable, it would NOT be all about mods.

What I'm saying is that the second sentence above is preferable. It's much more interesting to play and that makes for a better game.

If the Devs could give us balanced squads instead of power-creeping every few weeks, mods would still matter but they'd matter less and we'd have a better game to play.

Except, again, that’s not true. If slower Revan can beat faster Revan, then it is, in fact, NOT all about mods, unlike other metas in which it was.

I have never seen a mirror match being won by the slower team. Ever. No matter the squad. And definitely not Revan.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"Stenun;c-1770803" wrote:
"leef;c-1770800" wrote:
It always comes down to mods

And that's precisely what I'm complaining about. :smile:
It would be a much better game if it did NOT "always come down to mods".

It wouldn't, they introduced mods for a reason.
homerjsolo
6 years ago
"leef;c-1770807" wrote:
"Stenun;c-1770803" wrote:
"leef;c-1770800" wrote:
It always comes down to mods

And that's precisely what I'm complaining about. :smile:
It would be a much better game if it did NOT "always come down to mods".

It wouldn't, they introduced mods for a reason.

Agreed. As frustrating as mods are they make things like mirror matches much less frustrating than they used to be.
449710430e37db5
6 years ago
Since you now know the true name of this game is SW Galaxy of Mods, it’s time to start farming them mods.

Imagine the other scenario where there were no mods and it’s a RNG coin flip every time for mirror matches. That’s what you’re asking for if mods don’t matter.
KaiMulai
6 years ago

"leef;c-1770762" wrote:
If teams are more balanced and mods aren't that important because of it, what would seperate a top100 player from a top5 player?

Money spent, luck, priorities, and timing. In my shard, after the sea of Revans and a few Trayas at the top, there are more of a variety of teams and the strategy is often about which team you choose to attack the opponent, based on that team's strengths & weaknesses.

But top 5 players aren't better or more skilled than top 100 players. I'm top 100 in arena (because I chose not to farm Old Republic for Revan) and top 5 in fleet (because I chose to farm Bounty Hunter ships for the Falcon). Players that impress me are the ones who win in grand arena when matched with an equal opponent.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
The top of arena is always going to be dominated by the guys who have the new hot team and insanely fast mods.

As some have pointed out, you can win with a slower team, but it's obviously easier if you're, like...not slower.
Stenun
6 years ago
"GrantusMaximus;c-1770738" wrote:
It’s always been about speed and mods.

It wasn't when I was ~100 in Squad Arena. I was seeing a lot of different squads then. Now all I see is Revan, Bastila, Jolee, General Kenobi and Grand Master Yoda. Every opponent has the same squad.
And I fear that the Devs plan is to bring out a few new characters to form a squad that will just walk all over the above characters. And then after that, they'll bring out a squad to walk all over the previous characters, etc.
So all that happens is that it continues to be about the Mods.

Instead, why not try to make a variety of squads that are all roughly balanced? If it really was "rock paper scissors" as some claim, we'd still need to farm loads of characters (and therefore some people would still spend) because we'd have to alternate which squad we used in each Arena match. But we don't. We just farm the latest uber-squad, use our mods to determine the winners for the next few weeks, and then repeat when the newer uber-squad comes out.
It's tedious and dull.
LiathSW
6 years ago
Whether all the teams in arena are the same is a completely different issue than whether it’s “all about speed/mods.”

When there are multiple teams competing at the top, it’s still all about mods. The people at 100-200 during these times have one of the same teams as those at 1-10. The reason they don’t make it to top 10 is mods.

When there is one team dominating arena, it may or may not be all about mods. Revan teams can beat faster/better modded Revan teams, so in this case it’s not all about speed. Back in the day when everyone was running Wiggs, getting that opening shot off first was extremely important, so at that time it was all about speed.