So as more JMK teams fill my arena shard, most of which are now running all relic 8s including relic 7-8 CAT I can say this is the GL that broke the balance. Maybe with exception of Rey there was wiggle room to move around in arena. JML beat SLKR, SEE beat JML and SLKR beat SEE with relative success. Now these JMK teams are the strongest things I have ever seen. CAT one shots out the door, the assists are nearly game breaking. They are pretty much weak to nothing. There are comps that have success but certainly depends on how advanced the JMK is. For awhile I was having decent success getting position at payout using SEE R8 with tanks + wat. With CAT now even that gets decimated 70% of the time.Pretty sure JMK is the new and improved SLKR.

I feel a disturbance in the force...Seriously, you must have missed the old days, when a new meta was ALWAYS balance breaking.

I suppose you should start hoarding for Lord Vader.A lot of people on my shard are running SEE with NS; I suspect that might be as a JMK counter. Would be interesting to see if it holds up against CAT just as well.

"TVF;c-2278634" wrote:"th3evo;c-2278632" wrote:"TVF;c-2278630" wrote:"th3evo;c-2278628" wrote:"TVF;c-2278558" wrote:"Dkfusion;c-2278557" wrote:"Crayons;c-2278520" wrote:I kinda agree. I liked seeing my shard being a mash up. It’s quickly becoming like the olds days. One team all at the top, and it will slowly filter down as more unlock, till we have a top 50 all the same. That’s what it was like in the past and it was annoying. Recently it’s been refreshing when you go to do a battle and all 3 teams you can fight are different. This exactly. Unfortunately right now there is an absolutely obtuse difference between JMK and the rest. JMK can easily beat them all and is an extremely strong defender against them all. Yes I’ve beat really hard JMKs ( I run about a 1 in 6 or so against the hardest) but it requires extremely specific mod conditions, or powering up really off use toons which clearly comes with inherent issues when trying not to bloat, or pure RNG.These are all good things. How are those things good?Because I work hard to get the newest things and those things provide a return on my investment.So getting JML or SEE wasn't a return on your investment?JMK is currently providing a higher return on my investment.Is the higher return worth losing the variety in the squad arena?

"th3evo;c-2278638" wrote:"TVF;c-2278634" wrote:"th3evo;c-2278632" wrote:"TVF;c-2278630" wrote:"th3evo;c-2278628" wrote:"TVF;c-2278558" wrote:"Dkfusion;c-2278557" wrote:"Crayons;c-2278520" wrote:I kinda agree. I liked seeing my shard being a mash up. It’s quickly becoming like the olds days. One team all at the top, and it will slowly filter down as more unlock, till we have a top 50 all the same. That’s what it was like in the past and it was annoying. Recently it’s been refreshing when you go to do a battle and all 3 teams you can fight are different. This exactly. Unfortunately right now there is an absolutely obtuse difference between JMK and the rest. JMK can easily beat them all and is an extremely strong defender against them all. Yes I’ve beat really hard JMKs ( I run about a 1 in 6 or so against the hardest) but it requires extremely specific mod conditions, or powering up really off use toons which clearly comes with inherent issues when trying not to bloat, or pure RNG.These are all good things. How are those things good?Because I work hard to get the newest things and those things provide a return on my investment.So getting JML or SEE wasn't a return on your investment?JMK is currently providing a higher return on my investment.Is the higher return worth losing the variety in the squad arena?To me, absolutely. I'd much rather only have to do 4-5 battles a day and not worry about complete randos hitting me out of nowhere during my climb just because they finally unlocked one GL.

"TVF;c-2278637" wrote:"DarkHelmet1138;c-2278635" wrote:"TVF;c-2278631" wrote:"DarkHelmet1138;c-2278621" wrote:Unlike jml and see, I don't believe CG ever said jmk would be on par.I think they did say that actually?I don't recall seeing it but obviously, I can't prove the nonexistence of a statement. But if I'm wrong then so be it.https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/244212/road-ahead-april-2021#latestJedi Master Kenobi will be an extremely powerful unit and on par with other Galactic Legends.Hopefully he holds up as being a little above the rest though."little above the rest" is a massive understatement. It seems like he can't be countered without very specific GL teams while the other GLs can. Padme counter doesn't work against well moded JMK+CAT."TVF;c-2278639" wrote:To me, absolutely. I'd much rather only have to do 4-5 battles a day and not worry about complete randos hitting me out of nowhere during my climb just because they finally unlocked one GL.Are you ok with the upcoming Dark Side GL replacing JMK? Powercreep is somewhat necessary but massive jumps just hurt the game and overall enjoyment.

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gerryhendo
4 years ago

10 Kenobi in top 14. A top 14 that used to be quite diverse.

There was a time where every single toon in arena was the same. You enter arena and all three battles were the same choice, no matter how many times you refreshed. We all hated it. No individuality. No choice.

But for a while there it was glorious. You could see three completely different teams to fight. Often, a specific lead team will have toons not normally associated with that team slotted in there. There has been a great diversity for some time and it’s been amazing.

But that’s slowly changing. Forcing everyone, like before, in a singular way.

I’ve thought one of the best things about this game recently was the diversity of teams with the 4 GL’s that could find a way to beat anything. So far Kenobi CAT counters are unreliable. So far.
gerryhendo
4 years ago
Just don’t want to see a return to that stagnation
tvsfrink
4 years ago
"Xcien;c-2278788" wrote:
"TVF;c-2278780" wrote:
"Crayons;c-2278748" wrote:

10 Kenobi in top 14. A top 14 that used to be quite diverse.

There was a time where every single toon in arena was the same. You enter arena and all three battles were the same choice, no matter how many times you refreshed. We all hated it.

False

Glad to see you enjoyed the stale meta, friend.

Awww thanks buddy.
Nikoms565
4 years ago
"Dkfusion;c-2279037" wrote:

I think what JMK represents is a kin to a slap in the face for those of us that focused SEE.

https://media.giphy.com/media/2nGfl4QfpCtW/giphy.gif
Nikoms565
4 years ago
I would just like to point out that in the gif above, no one else is doing the slapping.....
Pile645
4 years ago
"TVF;c-2278689" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278683" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2278668" wrote:

This is exactly what I wanted from CAT / JMK.

As alien as it may seem to some, I love the rewards I get from arena, and I like to get them with as little effort as possible.

Having to watch my back for a 1 GL 2.9M GP player who climbs at all hours of the day is not what I want.

Fighting 8,9,10 battles a day in squad arena is not what I want, even if there is variety in the squads I use in doing so. I already have to endure this in fleet arena.

Seeing that 1 GL player reduced to feeding off scraps and sticking in the 20s all day is exactly what I want.

And I am completely OK with the next GL replacing JMK, because I am confident I’ll unlock them much much faster than almost everyone else in my shard.

Do you as a 5 year old player really have someone with 2.9M GP in your shard? Did they suddenly come back?
Thanks to the power of money they will most likely be able to buy their way to the next GL and bother your still.

Maybe not 2.9m but we are in an April 2017 and have had several sub 5m players with one GL show up out of nowhere and cause payout issues for others. These people don't spend money, if they did they would be able to keep up with power creep. They are taking advantage of rock paper scissors instead.

Absolutely this. All casual players had to do was get to the point where they unlocked SLK and SEE and they could climb to the upper levels of our 2016 shard. You see the same thing in fleet as you're almost guaranteed to see a new face in the top 20 after every territory battle.
tvsfrink
4 years ago
"Nikoms565;c-2279177" wrote:
I would just like to point out that in the gif above, no one else is doing the slapping.....

I'd post a Ric "you catch on pretty quick" gif but to be fair to you, the forums are not really known for catching on quick, so in this case you explaining it seems reasonable.
perfidius44
Rising Newcomer
4 years ago
"crzydroid;c-2278284" wrote:
I suppose you should start hoarding for Lord Vader.

A lot of people on my shard are running SEE with NS; I suspect that might be as a JMK counter. Would be interesting to see if it holds up against CAT just as well.

Versus a t1 instakill, zombie and geo alpha are welcome I guess Oo
Nikoms565
4 years ago
"Artumas;c-2278256" wrote:
And yet, there's still options, just as there was for SLKR at the start of the GL era.

I'm not seeing anything on JMK's kit that prevents a pre-taunt from taking the force leap - With Wat, this means JML should be able to take it and be totally fine.

While I agree with most of your post, as a JMK /CAT owner this doesn't work. CAT does enough damage that JML just goes down early g even with Wat/Bastila cheese, it's over in 2 or so minutes.
Fergjeezy357
4 years ago
Padme with CAT. Nuff said.