Kylo’s Lash Out

"CamaroAMF;c-1341493" wrote:

"Naw;c-1341080" wrote:
Kyno, continued testing this, good example with Kylo 150% crit dam, 3k physical damage rating and obi1 with 150% crit dam, 1600 physical damage rating.

Opponent’s Ackbar with 25% armor and 5877 protection.

Obi1 did with normal attack 2147 in red. Kylo did 4006 with lash out.

If Obi1 had Lash Out skill he should have scored 3757 with it. Likewise Kylo’s ”basic” is now worth 2289 (4006/1.75). It means 2x higher physical rating is worth less than 150 damage.

I don’t think the bonus is applied at all here. I’m on a mobile device, will post this later to HQ.

Make sure you're accounting for the damage modifiers. Old Ben's basic has a 1.758 modifier (175.8% of physical damage) while Lash Out only has a 1.2 modifier (120% of physical damage). That said, the mechanics on Lash Out look funny to me. I'm no expert but it sure looks like there's one too many 50% reductions in it on swgoh.gg. Someone better versed in reading the mechanics might be able to explain though.

Didn’t take those into account :(

Going by the assumption that physical damage rating * multiplier - armor here. Using exact numbers now, except for Ackbar’s armor which IIRC was 24.8..?

Obi1: 1623 * 1.758 * 0.752 = 2146
Kylo: 2958 * 1.2 * 0.752 = 2669

Before change
2669 * 1.5 = 4003 -> and this btw matches what I got now, so working as intended...? Edit: Hah, note that I don’t imply that this is how it’s counted, just that this way I reach approximately the same number :)

After change
... no idea how it’s calculated :)
It says bonus damage equals to 50% of Kylo’s critical damage so it would indicate 2669 / 0.75 + 2669 = 4670

The attack did 4006 and I’m unable to figure out why, what’s missing. Kylo’s armor penetration is 54, I’m not accounting for that at all here, but it should actually improve the numbers.

Hmm... here! It gives only flat 50% if Kylo’s crit dam is 150%:

Raw damage before armor reduction 4006 / 0.752 = 5327

Multiplier used: 2669 / 5327 ~= 0.5

I need to mod him for more critical damage to test this a little more, but that’s how I see it now.

Edit: Still haven’t gotten around to do this, family life gets in the way..

"mambagarden;c-1341475" wrote:
I think it no longer crits... it got an update when unmasked kylo came out

That’s not the issue here, there’s something off in my mind here with the damage of Lash Out. It was very weak to begin with but now it’s even weaker and as AI spams just that attack it pretty much makes Kylo completely useless in any Arena team.