If you haven't heard the news, some of the testing with Darth Revan has revealed an insanely powerful team. I'm as glad as the next guy that it beats Jedi Knight Revan, but at the same time, the mirror matches basically come down to who is fastest to get both shocked and plague on the field, which means there is no solution without better speed. Most of the other current metas can be beaten with slower speed mods if you are either lucky or smarter than the AI.The video goes over the interaction here: https://youtu.be/-ApGufNgvTcBut yeah, I think that this interaction is not healthy for the game. Possibly would be helpful if shock and plague can't coexist at the same time (plague dispels shock and/healing immunity)

JKR wasn’t healthy for the game, but he’s never been nerfed, so why would they nerf DR or Talzin?

Because it's not just Jedi Knight Revan it beats, it makes mirror matches a nightmare. A slower jedi knight revan can beat a faster jedi knight revan for example. That being said, a slower darth revan of this team varian can't beat a faster one.And the nerf shouldn't go to their kits, but the interaction between the two debuffs. I suggested that plague dispels shock or healing immunity, you can suggest another way to fix it.

Mirror match is already about who's faster anyway. What changed with that?

"Kyno;c-1818126" wrote:I didnt see him try to mark MT first. Then it's just a normal interaction. Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.

I'm all for letting this run wild for a bit if it stops all the "DARF REVUN R NAWT GUD ENUF" crap.

Probably Should Nerf the Interaction Between Plague and Shock/Healing Immunity

Goremise
6 years ago
This teams still possible to beat if you know how... ;D
DVZR
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1818156" wrote:
"VonZant;c-1818132" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1818126" wrote:
I didnt see him try to mark MT first. Then it's just a normal interaction.

Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.

Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.

yeah, i see that now. still might help hold off the plague with the CD increase

Yep. I forgot about that. ;) Even Bastilla basic or stagger will should do her in as she doesnt get the rest of the team bonuses.

Going to be an interesting few days as the community group-think/break kicks in.
NyKynoe
6 years ago
"VonZant;c-1818160" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1818156" wrote:
"VonZant;c-1818132" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1818126" wrote:
I didnt see him try to mark MT first. Then it's just a normal interaction.

Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.

Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.

yeah, i see that now. still might help hold off the plague with the CD increase

Yep. I forgot about that. ;) Even Bastilla basic or stagger will should do her in as she doesnt get the rest of the team bonuses.

Going to be an interesting few days as the community group-think/break kicks in.

yeah, this is the most fun time in the game. I love the experimentation.
DVZR
6 years ago
"Jarvind;c-1818161" wrote:
I'm all for letting this run wild for a bit if it stops all the "DARF REVUN R NAWT GUD ENUF" crap.

Never! What fun are things without predictions of DOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!?
mesa176750
6 years ago
I am interested to see where the meta takes us. I just don't want to trade 6 months of jedi knight revan for 6 months of darth revan with talzin. I liked seeing a few traya revan teams, thought it kept it interesting to have 2 equally good teams for offense and defense.
Tabub
6 years ago
Make it where when you have plague all debuffs EXCEPT shock and healing immunity cannot be cleansed, boom fixed
Nikoms565
6 years ago
"Tabub;c-1818216" wrote:
Make it where when you have plague all debuffs EXCEPT shock and healing immunity cannot be cleansed, boom fixed

No, stop. That makes too much sense. CG has never fixed anything the easy and simple way.
Palanthrax
6 years ago
How does this solve the problem of the JKR team’s tenacity up at the start? In China so I can’t watch YouTube right now!
DVZR
6 years ago
I dont have him, but reading kit:

DR attacks leader with insanity and inflicts fear on everyone. When fear expires, dispels all buffs. Tenacity down from HK, Plague, Shock, Fear/Stagger from BSF = GG.
mesa176750
6 years ago
"Tabub;c-1818216" wrote:
Make it where when you have plague all debuffs EXCEPT shock and healing immunity cannot be cleansed, boom fixed

I like the idea, but I thought of a different solution, because shock at least has a lot of good uses outside of preventing healing. Maybe add a clause to plague where "healing cannot be prevented when inflicted with plague". That way you would still keep the other debuffs after you heal back up to full health, but stop this interaction.