i am well aware how ship stats work but I cant for the life of me figure out how this guy in my shard still has a faster ship than me. my tie fighter pilot and TFp ship are both upgraded and maxed more than the ship and pilot of a guy in my shard. going by all stats. I am not sure as to why his ship edges mine in stats though, even though both my pilot and my ship are stronger than his.my ship speed is 193, his is 194what am I overlooking?

Grey to Green: +22 GPGreen to Blue: +23 GPBlue to Purple: +22 GPPurple to Gold: +24 GPGold to 6E: +45 GPSo your all-gold mods are granting you +300 GP over him. However; his extra G12 piece is granting him approximately +209. Hence the +91 difference in your TFP GP's. Obviously gets inflated when you see the green "+#GP" when you assign mods or gear on a crew member because it reflects their increased GP along with their increased crew power contribution and ship power increase.

There are two things going on here.He has more G12 pieces then you, giving his ship a faster speed, more health, etc.So what about the power difference on the ships? You have a level 3 reinforcement, he only has a level 2. That is the reason for the discrepancy in power. That level 3 gives you more "power" but does not boost the ship basic stats.For those claiming a difference in mod quality, that isn't actually true EXCEPT in the case of going from 5 dot to 6 dot. A level 15 gray 5 dot gives as much boost to the ship as a level 15 gold 5 dot. Nor does the type of mod matter. Health, potency, speed, all irrelevant. Only thing that matters is if it is 5 dot and level 15 (or 6 dot for another boost over 5 dot).

"Fanatic;c-1686415" wrote: For those claiming a difference in mod quality, that isn't actually true EXCEPT in the case of going from 5 dot to 6 dot. A level 15 gray 5 dot gives as much boost to the ship as a level 15 gold 5 dot. Nor does the type of mod matter. Health, potency, speed, all irrelevant. Only thing that matters is if it is 5 dot and level 15 (or 6 dot for another boost over 5 dot).You are technically correct, except that mod quality does affect GP now. It doesn't affect stats, though, which is contributing to the confusion here.

Find your opponent on SWGOH and find out what mods he actually has on his TFP. Then use the calculator to figure out exactly what is going on.

http://apps.crouchingrancor.com/Calculators/ShipSpeeduse this site

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Boba_The_Fetter
7 years ago
Wait which ship is yours? The 43900 one or the 46200 one?
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
7 years ago
However "his" TFP has a lower GP than "mine", both with 5-dot mods and all omegas. Implying "his" has less of the G12 and G12+ pieces equipped.

The only ship difference I can see is that "mine" has maxed reinforcement whereas "his" is only at stage 2.

So unless specific G12+ pieces grant ships additional speed...
Armaturbatyr
7 years ago
"Kyno;c-1686366" wrote:
The g12 gear adds speed, you cant see what he has equipped. He simply has more equipped than you.

That’s not true. It is very unlikely he has more golden gears having 43,9k power while OP has 46k...
trystanspyder
7 years ago
Odd. My Tie is 194 speed, and it's 46002 gp. TFP is 12+3 17197 gp.

I think you're getting a GP boost from the quality of mods (gold vs blue/green), but ships don't really care about that as much. Notice the ship speed calculator doesn't ask what quality of mod it is?

In fact, Kyno's right that he's g12+3 where you're g12+2, and your mod quality is making up the gp gap. Ship speed calculator backs this up. g12+2 is 193, g12+3 is 194.
chionophobe
7 years ago
"BigLib;c-1686387" wrote:
He has more G12 pieces. Only explanation. Your mods must inflate your GP.

Gold mods give a GP bump, but don't actually improve stats, so this is correct. All that matters here is his extra G12 gear piece.
russdpipes
7 years ago
how are my gold mods still giving my pilot that much more gp than his if he has an extra gear piece than me.

shouldnt his pilot have a higher gp than mine if he has an extra g12 piece?
trystanspyder
7 years ago
"Russdpipes;c-1686393" wrote:
how are my gold mods still giving my pilot that much more gp than his if he has an extra gear piece than me.

shouldnt his pilot have a higher gp than mine if he has an extra g12 piece?

Not when you have 6 gold mods and he's got 0.

My TFP has 1 gold, 3 green, 1 blue. I replaced the blue with a gold and it jumped my gp 153. So it's easy for your gp to be inflated.
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
7 years ago
I was referring to his TFP GP. Hence why the other TFP ship is faster despite both crew GP and ship GP being lower. One extra G12 piece but lower Tier mods. Lower GP but faster ship.
Waquira
7 years ago
It appears counter-intuitive to me, that a ship with both higher crew power and higher ship power still has lower stats. If the difference origins from different amounts of g12 pieces on the crew member, it would seem more logic (to me at least) that this difference would also be reflected in the crew power of the crew member.

Here I thought, that the crew member with higher crew power would always be the stronger crew member. Apparently this is wrong.
CamaroAMF
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Vendi1983;c-1686371" wrote:
However "his" TFP has a lower GP than "mine", both with 5-dot mods and all omegas. Implying "his" has less of the G12 and G12+ pieces equipped.

The only ship difference I can see is that "mine" has maxed reinforcement whereas "his" is only at stage 2.

So unless specific G12+ pieces grant ships additional speed...

Taking reinforcement from level 2 to level 3 does add about 2k GP to the ship.

Did some testing with my TFP. Put the same color mods on mine as he has and then switched to all golds. You having all gold mods compared to his setup adds 301 GP to your TFP plus 677 more to the ship but impacts the ship stats none. When I use the same mod setup as him my TFP has the same GP (17,196) and I have all three of the left side G12 pieces. You need the top left piece to match him.