Sith Marauder ability WAI??

"Jovana_Milo;c-1460756" wrote:

"CG_Kozispoon;c-1460753" wrote:

"jejuzang;c-1460630" wrote:

"Elebrind;c-1460101" wrote:
"Basics" are basic abilities, hence using ability mats to level them.

Would you co

"CamaroAMF;c-1460113" wrote:
Basic abilities are abilities, as defined by the game. The abilities that have cooldowns are *special* abilities.

I did not see it this way as the debuff "ability block" prevent the use of abilities.

It seems as though this ability just needs a simple rewording to fix the confusion.

@CG_Kozispoon we post here because we love and care about the game. We wouldnt bring stuff up if we didnt care. Keep up the good work.

Bringing up stuff is fine! We love and care about the game just as much as our fellow Holotable heroes.

While the wording may not be what some prefer, it is correct.

So that includes unique abilities used out of turn too?

"When an enemy uses an ability outside of their turn"

This is definitely curious. Does Zarriss healing count as "using an ability"? Does Rex's lead count as "using an ability"? My guess would be no, but there's definitely contradicting evidence around this.

"Dryff;c-1460777" wrote:

"Jovana_Milo;c-1460756" wrote:

"CG_Kozispoon;c-1460753" wrote:

"jejuzang;c-1460630" wrote:

"Elebrind;c-1460101" wrote:
"Basics" are basic abilities, hence using ability mats to level them.

Would you co

"CamaroAMF;c-1460113" wrote:
Basic abilities are abilities, as defined by the game. The abilities that have cooldowns are *special* abilities.

I did not see it this way as the debuff "ability block" prevent the use of abilities.

It seems as though this ability just needs a simple rewording to fix the confusion.

@CG_Kozispoon we post here because we love and care about the game. We wouldnt bring stuff up if we didnt care. Keep up the good work.

Bringing up stuff is fine! We love and care about the game just as much as our fellow Holotable heroes.

While the wording may not be what some prefer, it is correct.

So that includes unique abilities used out of turn too?

"When an enemy uses an ability outside of their turn"

This is definitely curious. Does Zarriss healing count as "using an ability"? Does Rex's lead count as "using an ability"? My guess would be no, but there's definitely contradicting evidence around this.

This is why i suggested using "acts outside of turn". The new phrase would mean that all actions would give TM. Passive abilties, (which are not actions) would not.

But as it is worded now it us still ambiguous, which i am sure, none of us want.

It was clarified by Kozi when the character kit was shown. Marauder will gain tm on assists and counter attacks, but not on uniques.

Now, it doesn't say it specifically in the skill description, and I agree that it's confusing at the least, but it has been clarified, and quickly for once.

"CleverWes;c-1460835" wrote:
It was clarified by Kozi when the character kit was shown. Marauder will gain tm on assists and counter attacks, but not on uniques.

Now, it doesn't say it specifically in the skill description, and I agree that it's confusing at the least, but it has been clarified, and quickly for once.

Where was it clarified about uniques??

TM gain for every counter attack, and for everyone that assists.

"DedrickRogue;c-1460923" wrote:
TM gain for every counter attack, and for everyone that assists.

Now its attacks? I thought it was every ability use, not just attack. Wouldn't that cover passive and uniques?

"jejuzang;c-1460934" wrote:

"DedrickRogue;c-1460923" wrote:
TM gain for every counter attack, and for everyone that assists.

Now its attacks? I thought it was every ability use, not just attack. Wouldn't that cover passive and uniques?

How would you even begin to keep track of that? Can you imagine how much constant TM he would generate every single turn? Literally no one in the game has anything that triggers on others’ passive and leader abilities like that.

No, I’d wager my house he’ll trigger TM gain on counters and assists only; because it fits the terminology they use in other places, and he’d take every other turn otherwise.

The difference between passives and uniques vs basics and specials is, in general, that the former pair are mainly triggered effects, while the latter pair are actions taken by the toon.

The wording is that whenever a character uses an ability outside of their turn. Passive abilities are never used they are only triggered. Now on counters and assists something triggered that character to use that ability so it was an action (a use) that was triggered. With a taunt, it is merely an effect that was triggered. You can tell that no ability was used because no animation of the character happens to show it as such.

Bottom line is that passives/uniques are never used, they are simply always on and either have persistent or triggered effects.

I'm still under the impression that rebels, jedi and shocked enemies will lose 20% of their max health each turn the enemy takes.
"While Palpatine is active, at the start of each enemy turn, they take damage equal to 20% of their Max Health for each of the following: they are Shocked; they are a Jedi; they are a Rebel. This damage can't defeat enemies. Palpatine has +50% Max Protection, and, when he inflicts Shock, he gains 5% Max Protection until the end of the encounter."
A mother yelled at her daughter because she was drunk. So who was drunk, the mother or the daughter?
So yea, marauder should gain TM from uniques. It would only be fair that a sith takes revenge on R2 for pushing out maul !
+ some more incoherent rambling !!!

Not to fuel the fire, but countering is using an ability....now if that counter also triggers a unique it shouldn’t count as 2 abilities used, but a counter is still using a basic ability.