Advance disclaimer: I know that "arena defense" is somewhat of an oxymoron in this game. I'm just trying to do as well as I can.So I provide a lot of advice here but now I am looking for yours.I was really excited when I got Jinn and Yoda, finally I could play Jedi in arena! So I made a team with them and it wins 95% of the time -- when I am controlling it. But the AI is spectacularly dumb with Yoda, mine is only 5* and very squishy, and so I am now getting targeted and pushed down the leaderboard. I need something with a bit more staying power.Noteworthy current assets:- Lumi 7* maxed- Sid 7* maxed- Kylo 7* maxed- Phasma 7* maxed- GS 6*, 7* soon, near max- Jinn 6* near max- Old Daka 6* maxed- Barriss 6* near max- Dooku 6* maxed, will be 7* soon- Ventress 6*- Yoda 5*- Fives 4* maxed gear, close to 5*- Poe 5*Noteworthy future assets:- IG-86 3* but with a pile of shards waiting that could take him to 6*- IG-88 unactivated but with 5* worth of shards- Poggle 5* but unleveled, and will have enough for 6* soon- Rey 4* but unactivated- Anakin 4*, will be 6* by next month- 24,000 arena tokens- 25,000 GW tokensI do not have a lot of credits, currently working my pile back up after leveling up many characters for the Yoda thing. Sitting on 4M. That's why I have so many characters sitting unleveled. (I refuse to buy credits.)Any suggestions for a team that will help me be targeted less in arena, especially if it makes use of what I already have, would be appreciated. One thought was an annoyance squad (Phasma lead, Daka, Dooku, Kylo/GS, Lumi). But this is close to what I used to play and it seems it is pretty easily beaten. Another was to go full droid, but I need a lot of credits for that. Plus my Poe is 5* which lowers my power rating and increases the chances of being targeted.Thanks for any help.

I think there are two ways to defend in this game. One is with units that can't screw it. Rey has 3 ways to do damage, and most of them kill a char, so there is no way the AI wsstes a turn with her. Most hesvy damage dealers are like this (Rey, Geo, FOTP...).The other option is with RNG heavy chars. People fear them a bit, and even if crazy luck is uncommon, you dont expect to win the majority of games as defender snyways. Chars like Phasma, Dooku, Daka can go RNG crszy and get something like two fouble stuns early and win a .match despiste AI awful tsrgetting.Best way to defender us being top rank, tho. I got #1 early this morbing. I'm still #1. Not because my squad defensa well, but because as #1 I can only be attacked by tanks 2-4. None of them have been online yet (different time zones too) so I'm invulnerable

I don't have any way to get up to such rarified ranks unless I start recharging for more attempts. And I don't have enough maxed characters probably to pull it off. I have another alternative: simply forget about arena for now and just hover around the bottom of the top 50. But then I start to wonder why I am even playing at all. GW is easy, and there's nothing else to do. If I'm not building towards doing well in PvP, then what I have now is already enough.I hate the sniping nonsense at 6 pm, and I was happy to just be in the top 20. But I'd rather not keep slipping by 10 ranks every week.Yoda is proving to be a major disappointment.

Yes, that's the purpose of this thread. I'm looking for advice from people who have had good luck with holding position in arena, so I can do something other than just "put in my top 5 guys and hope for the best".

Best defense team on my shard is.QGJ leaderGSBenPoeRey/yodaThere are 2 teams like that, almost unbeatable currently for ftp. They don't leave the top 5 ever. I place top 5 everyday with Sid, poggle, Poe, GS, lumi max everything. I drop to 10-20 usually though after my 5-6 pm run.

Didn't know that you are a Phasma user. I can't think of a team for you but you can build around Sidious and Dooku. In this meta, you defend by dropping your opponents fast.

Suggestions for a defensive team for arena?

Qeltarr
9 years ago
"Jabberwocky;140303" wrote:
"Qeltar;140234" wrote:
Well I used my Jinn/Yoda team to claw back into the 30s from 71 and then for my 5th fight switched to Phasma / Dooku / Daka / GS / Lumi. I won that fight so now around #29. I deliberately did this 5 hours before our arena deadline on a Sunday so I can see how well it holds. Hoping the RNG factor with all of Phasma, Dooku and Daka will help. These are all also relatively simple characters that the AI is less likely to mess up.
I cant use Fives yet. His power level is too low and would make me a target. But I might eventually sub him in somewhere. Its super hard to get rid of Lumi though, she is just so ridiculously good.

The Proc rate of Daka and Phasma seems to be buffed on AI, don't care what's been said before about RNG, I run a Phasma Daka team and I consistently only get half the procs the AI does, day in, day out.

I hope enough people agree with you that they want to avoid my team. ;)
I'm now thinking about going to Poggle lead with GS, IG-86, Daka and Poe. Would that be "porcupiney" enough to keep people away? It will require 5 MM credits for leveling Poggle and IG-86 though, and another 1 MM for star upgrades, and then I have to farm gear for them. But once that's done I will have them. Poggle seems pretty versatile. And both Poggle and IG-86 are essentially "free" for me with my GW stockpile.
This team is likely weak against the big speed teams though. They will get several shots before Poe taunts. One reason I wouldn't use IG-88.
I think I also will just now accept that 50 crystals per day is the cost of remaining competitive in the arena... at least, as competitive as I am willing to try for (I'm not going to spend extra crystals to bypass timers and engage in the snipe-fest in the top 10).
patel18nik
9 years ago
On my server one guy using Poggle(Lead), dooku,GS,ig86 and FOTP all maxed .. almost unbeatable everyday #1. I was able to beat him only one time with Phasma(lead), poggle, lumi, kylo and sid.
Qeltarr
9 years ago
"reizse;140346" wrote:
50 crystals is an opportunity cost to stay competitive, if you consider competitive as being higher ranked. but there's also an upside to it...during rush hour, i only aim to hit the highest ranked players to climb. this means i usually ignore teams that might have interesting comps. with an additional refresh, that's another 5 attempts to fight these teams and gauge my own ability to counter them, which is pretty fun

Unfortunately my server is so bloody active that those 50 crystals will likely go to waste. I get into the top 20 and I will just get knocked below 50 again.
I'm getting close to the "why even bother with all this for 25 extra tokens and 50 extra crystals I have to spend anyway"? There's really not that much difference between being rank 21 and rank 200 (as I have been telling people for months, even when I was regularly getting into the top 10).
I hope whatever PvP revamp they are working on is better than.. this.
Phipps_347
9 years ago
Arena is only worth the stress if you take top 5 everyday, preferably top 3. Otherwise just use your 5 fights and fall where ever that may be. I don't think about defense at all. Just build a team that can beat the other teams you play against on offensive so you have 5 wins a day.....or 3-4 wins if you are competing for top 10.

Best defense there is IMO is to be active and use your 5 fights the 50 minutes before rewards are given. Start at 5:10-5:15. This way during prime hours of ppl playing 1/2 the time they can't play you because your in a match.
Qeltarr
9 years ago
It's a tradeoff. You are active during that hour but so are lots of other people. Sometimes I find it actually makes more sense to be active the hour before that if I just want to, say, get into the 20s so I stay in the top 50s. If I am at 52 and try to get into the top 50 after 5 pm, half the time I immediately get knocked back down into the 50s as soon as I get into the 40s.
ryabbey
9 years ago
I usually hold something in the top 10 on my shard. Have 3 or 4 firsts I was able to hold onto this week.

"Qeltar;140324" wrote:
"Jabberwocky;140303" wrote:
"Qeltar;140234" wrote:
Well I used my Jinn/Yoda team to claw back into the 30s from 71 and then for my 5th fight switched to Phasma / Dooku / Daka / GS / Lumi. I won that fight so now around #29. I deliberately did this 5 hours before our arena deadline on a Sunday so I can see how well it holds. Hoping the RNG factor with all of Phasma, Dooku and Daka will help. These are all also relatively simple characters that the AI is less likely to mess up.
I cant use Fives yet. His power level is too low and would make me a target. But I might eventually sub him in somewhere. Its super hard to get rid of Lumi though, she is just so ridiculously good.

The Proc rate of Daka and Phasma seems to be buffed on AI, don't care what's been said before about RNG, I run a Phasma Daka team and I consistently only get half the procs the AI does, day in, day out.

I hope enough people agree with you that they want to avoid my team. ;)
I'm now thinking about going to Poggle lead with GS, IG-86, Daka and Poe. Would that be "porcupiney" enough to keep people away? It will require 5 MM credits for leveling Poggle and IG-86 though, and another 1 MM for star upgrades, and then I have to farm gear for them. But once that's done I will have them. Poggle seems pretty versatile. And both Poggle and IG-86 are essentially "free" for me with my GW stockpile.
This team is likely weak against the big speed teams though. They will get several shots before Poe taunts. One reason I wouldn't use IG-88.
I think I also will just now accept that 50 crystals per day is the cost of remaining competitive in the arena... at least, as competitive as I am willing to try for (I'm not going to spend extra crystals to bypass timers and engage in the snipe-fest in the top 10).

The setup mentioned here does sound troublesome. In the past week, I've seen Daka make a major comeback. I detest fighting her.

Dooku is also a pain in the wazoo. A 7* Dooku lead with Daka, Poe, Poggle, and Geo Soldier I would avoid like the plague... until more adjustments are made next week?
Qeltarr
9 years ago
"Arillian;140508" wrote:

Dooku is also a pain in the wazoo. A 7* Dooku lead with Daka, Poe, Poggle, and Geo Soldier I would avoid like the plague... until more adjustments are made next week?

Dooku lead is something I was working on, but he's currently bugged. If they fix him, I am thinking Dooku(L) / Rey / Yoda / Lumi / GS could be absolutely frightening.
My Rey is currently sitting at 112/80 shards, and I plan to unlock her at (or near) 5*.. which should be in around 2 weeks. This is one of the reasons I am hesitant to put 2 million credits into Poggle or IG-86. I'm really torn here.
Qeltarr
9 years ago
@SpeedWeed - I agree, if going for the top 10. But if just trying to stay in the top 50, which lately is my only goal, sometimes it is actually better to go earlier so it takes multiple losses to get knocked out and you don't get knocked back while you are climbing up (which I so hate).
smooth2772
9 years ago
"l3end3r;140923" wrote:
I'm trying to get:

QGJ(lead), Daka, Dooku, GS and Rey

All the speed, stuns, assists and damage would make it hard to get going against this team on defense. If Daka RNG's a revive, I don't see how this team could lose

Fast team for sure, but it seems like a waste to use QJC at lead with no other Jedi in the group.
Abyss738
9 years ago
Qeltar not that i really hve any advice to offer because each arena group is different. What works in one group may not (an probably wont) work in another.

My group seems fairly laid back and has minimal whales. This lets a variety of team comps flourish and minimal meta chasing happens.

The benefits for me is it allows my team of toons that i enjoy playing with remain vompetitve enough.

Dooku leader
Sidious
Kylo
Lumi
Phasma

Its a fun team in that its all characters i like. I dont worry so much about synergy or chasing the meta because i think its dumb and boring to use toons like geo soldier just because he is effective. Bot a single player downloaded this game an said "man i hope i can get a FOTP or a geo soldier, that'd be soooooo cool" lol so I refuse to use them to ensure i have fun.

Best of luck in your arena group buddy but that is the same team i had with phasma as leade but since the nerf, shes useless as a leader overall imo so i had to do something