Tarkin, ships, zeta and new power rating.

It won't affect his ship at all.

"John_Anacall;c-1161789" wrote:
It won't affect his ship at all.

Except for the combined power rating, which is irrelevant of course.

"John_Anacall;c-1161789" wrote:
It won't affect his ship at all.

Well that's funny. It just artificially inflates the power level I guess lol. I thought they were trying to make power level mean something?

It would make a small different, but in no way would it be worth a zeta unless you're planning on using that zeta for Tarkin, not his ship. I omega'ed 5s' leader ability, and that bumped his ships speed by 1 and added a bit of health, protection, and damage. For 3 omegas, that was worth it since omegas are cheap.

"CrownV87;c-1161825" wrote:
His capitol ship might gain 1 speed from the added ability point and im guessing itll add 75 to 150 damage output. If he has any abilities that you havent omegaed just omega one of those and youd get the same result per stats added to his capitol ship. Level 8 ability point will add the same regardless if its omega or a zeta

The bolded portion is simply untrue.

Putting a Zeta ability on produces more crew rating than an omega does. Your ship stats are based on crew rating, You get so many point of every ship stat the crew can boost based on the rating which is affected by everything on the character.

No one knows what the breakpoints are (as far as I know) on the ships so how much it will actually affect his stats is unknown. What is known is that it will make an increase, and a larger one than any other ability upgrade would.

See here. Not sure if the data is still relevant (I believe it is, even if not completely), but see the "Rating per ability level" section. The higher the crew's stats, the stronger their effect on ship power. And ship power is calculated based on its stats. It means that a zeta upgrade will bring a higher stat increase than any of the lower ability levels. Whether it's worth it or not is up to you to decide. It definitely won't make any critical difference, so if you still have a crucial toon needing a zeta for arena or raid purposes, go for it. Otherwise, why not give that Tarkin guy a little boost?

I think a zeta will eventually impact ship ratings more than omegas in the future, but the current toon/ship strength score is purely asthetic, and has no impact on the game at the moment. So and omega level 8 skill would have the same impact to a ships attributes as a zeta level 8 ability, again at this time, under the old system for calculations.

"ImYourHuckleberry;c-1162146" wrote:
I think a zeta will eventually impact ship ratings more than omegas in the future, but the current toon/ship strength score is purely asthetic, and has no impact on the game at the moment. So and omega level 8 skill would have the same impact to a ships attributes as a zeta level 8 ability, again at this time, under the old system for calculations.

No. Under the old system of calculations, a zeta was still worth a higher crew rating than an omega.

It was not purely aesthetic, but the difference either of them made was relatively minor, and only if you made it to certain breakpoints would it actually make a noticeable difference in stats.

However, everything is/was based on that crew rating, so increasing it in any fashion is the only way to improve anything on your ships.

"Woodroward;c-1162327" wrote:

"ImYourHuckleberry;c-1162146" wrote:
I think a zeta will eventually impact ship ratings more than omegas in the future, but the current toon/ship strength score is purely asthetic, and has no impact on the game at the moment. So and omega level 8 skill would have the same impact to a ships attributes as a zeta level 8 ability, again at this time, under the old system for calculations.

No. Under the old system of calculations, a zeta was still worth a higher crew rating than an omega.

It was not purely aesthetic, but the difference either of them made was relatively minor, and only if you made it to certain breakpoints would it actually make a noticeable difference in stats.

However, everything is/was based on that crew rating, so increasing it in any fashion is the only way to improve anything on your ships.

I disagree and stand by what I said.

"Woodroward;c-1161882" wrote:

"CrownV87;c-1161825" wrote:
His capitol ship might gain 1 speed from the added ability point and im guessing itll add 75 to 150 damage output. If he has any abilities that you havent omegaed just omega one of those and youd get the same result per stats added to his capitol ship. Level 8 ability point will add the same regardless if its omega or a zeta

The bolded portion is simply untrue.

Putting a Zeta ability on produces more crew rating than an omega does. Your ship stats are based on crew rating, You get so many point of every ship stat the crew can boost based on the rating which is affected by everything on the character.

No one knows what the breakpoints are (as far as I know) on the ships so how much it will actually affect his stats is unknown. What is known is that it will make an increase, and a larger one than any other ability upgrade would.

False. A zeta upgrade provides just as much crew rating as an omega upgrade because both are level 8 ability upgrades. Crew rating does NOT equal crew power, which is what you see. The sooner people stop looking at Crew Power the sooner this misinformation will stop spreading and cropping up. The only misinformation pertaining to ships that is more common is what part of mods (ONLY dot and level) affects crew rating.

While zeta upgrades now provide more galactic power than omega upgrades, ship crew rating was untouched. Both apply the same change in crew rating (going from 383 for the ability up to 523, an increase of 140 crew rating).

As for breakpoints, they're easily identifiable but not worth the time to produce en masse because of the wide variety of options. All you have to do is find your current crew rating (using the charts found here), multiply by the crew contribution modifier for that particular ship's stat in question, then do the same after adding in the additional crew rating from new gear, stars, ability upgrades, mod dot/level (and NOTHING else), and character level. Almost all stats are rounded down, so floor everything and you're good to go.


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"Woodroward;c-1162327" wrote:
No. Under the old system of calculations, a zeta was still worth a higher crew rating than an omega.

It was not purely aesthetic, but the difference either of them made was relatively minor, and only if you made it to certain breakpoints would it actually make a noticeable difference in stats.

However, everything is/was based on that crew rating, so increasing it in any fashion is the only way to improve anything on your ships.

Just wanted to add that this is also false. Under the original system, which is still being used, zeta upgrades provided the exact same bonus to crew rating as omega upgrades. The change in galactic power formula did not change the ship crew rating formula, so it still works that way. But it has never worked the way you describe.