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I find it doubtful you have used k2 more than I. He's been in my arena team for 14 months. Been in the top 10 with him for about 6 of those (CLS and jtr) top 20/50 for another 6 (hk). I'm not getting defensive in the slightest. I'm getting corrective.
With r2's stealth. K2 can tank and attack numerous times without ever going once. Speed is literally irrelevant for k2 when he's paired with r2.
You are also mistaken in thinking that everyone going faster means jtr goes faster. It's only when Resistance allies gain secret Intel that she gains tm.
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"Trollsbane;c-1422044" wrote:"Woodroward;c-1421853" wrote:"Tannjam;c-1421707" wrote:"Woodroward;c-1421432" wrote:
You can disagree all you want. I've watched plenty of videos with Chopper and played against him as well as having played a lot with K2S0... this isn't a theory. Chopper doesn't reduce ID any faster than K2S0 does.
Chopper has 152 base speed and 2 specials, which reduce ID cooldown by # of allies that have secret intel when used (typically this will be 3-5 when Chopper goes after BB-8 and R-2). He also has a 30% assist chance off these very speedy droids, and has a base physical critical rating higher than K-2S0.
Every time he assists, he has a 60% chance to reduce the speedy droid's CD's by 1 (which applies to their specials AND illuminated destiny).
You're wrong. Trollsbane is right. Unsurprisingly.
Let's do some math here. 30% chance to assist means less than1 in 3 attacks he assists. 60% chance to reduce CDs means roughly half the time he reduces CDs. 4 droids means 1 in 4 assists he reduces ID CD. So roughly 1 out of every 24 speedy Droid attacks will reduce ID CD.
A less than 1 in 3 chance to assist means speedy droids would have to take 3 turns to the enemies 1 for chopper to attack out of turn more than k2 (they don't by the way)
Chopper does have 2 specials with 3 and 4 turn CDs.
Bb8 and r2 go less than 3 times for every opponent attack which means k2's 97.6 counter chance leads to more out of turn CD reduction than choppers assist which takes care of the speed difference.
K2's 2 turn CD on special means he uses specials as often as chopper's 4 and 3 turn CDs.
Since experience isn't good enough for you. There's math that shows I'm right too... Unsurprisingly. He is theorizing. I'm speaking from experience. Chopper doesn't speed up ID any faster than k2.
You assume too much. I've run droids extensively in arena and have used K2SO successfully and have him geared. I'd even say without a doubt I've used K2SO much more than you ever have. For whatever reason you want to get defensive because others believe Chopper works better in a RJT/IPD squad. Here's what you keep missing... it's all about speed. K2SO is not fast. Chopper is extremely fast and buffs other droids with speed up. Each droid (R2, BB8, Chopper, IPD) at the end of their turn gives IPD 5% TM. The faster everyone is the sooner ID goes off. It's that simple. The faster everyone is the more TM Rey gets from Secret Intel spreading.
You may think the speed difference is minor and not an issue but in arena the slow droid is going to lose.
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I find it doubtful you have used k2 more than I. He's been in my arena team for 14 months. Been in the top 10 with him for about 6 of those (CLS and jtr) top 20/50 for another 6 (hk). I'm not getting defensive in the slightest. I'm getting corrective.
With r2's stealth. K2 can tank and attack numerous times without ever going once. Speed is literally irrelevant for k2 when he's paired with r2.
You are also mistaken in thinking that everyone going faster means jtr goes faster. It's only when Resistance allies gain secret Intel that she gains tm.
My profile link is in my signature.
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