Team Droids on Roids...the new Meta?

Chopper is also MUCH faster than K2SO and has two special abilities. The speed and 2 specials help spread around Secret Intel faster which feeds TM to Rey and also gets your Illuminated Destiny off sooner.

"Trollsbane;c-1421402" wrote:
Chopper is also MUCH faster than K2SO and has two special abilities. The speed and 2 specials help spread around Secret Intel faster which feeds TM to Rey and also gets your Illuminated Destiny off sooner.

Meh, I use K2 in my JTR squad. I have played against someone using Chopper in theirs. Not impressed with Chopper over K2 personally.

For the record: Chopper does NOT make ID proc faster than K2. Counterattacks off of forced taunt from R2 and his own taunt mean all his crits decrease it just as fast... even if K2 never took a turn.

"Woodroward;c-1421404" wrote:

"Trollsbane;c-1421402" wrote:
Chopper is also MUCH faster than K2SO and has two special abilities. The speed and 2 specials help spread around Secret Intel faster which feeds TM to Rey and also gets your Illuminated Destiny off sooner.

Meh, I use K2 in my JTR squad. I have played against someone using Chopper in theirs. Not impressed with Chopper over K2 personally.

For the record: Chopper does NOT make ID proc faster than K2. Counterattacks off of forced taunt from R2 and his own taunt mean all his crits decrease it just as fast... even if K2 never took a turn.

I disagree. K2SO only reduces ID cooldown by 1 IF he crits. K2SO crit is usually around 35%. Then you have GK throwing around crit immunity on your enemy. Chopper on the other hand is super fast and has two specials which each reduce ID by 1-3 depending on how many Resistance allies have Secret Intel. Choppers assist happens when YOUR super fast droids attack. K2SO counters only happen whenever the enemy gets a turn finally.

"Trollsbane;c-1421428" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1421404" wrote:

"Trollsbane;c-1421402" wrote:
Chopper is also MUCH faster than K2SO and has two special abilities. The speed and 2 specials help spread around Secret Intel faster which feeds TM to Rey and also gets your Illuminated Destiny off sooner.

Meh, I use K2 in my JTR squad. I have played against someone using Chopper in theirs. Not impressed with Chopper over K2 personally.

For the record: Chopper does NOT make ID proc faster than K2. Counterattacks off of forced taunt from R2 and his own taunt mean all his crits decrease it just as fast... even if K2 never took a turn.

I disagree. K2SO only reduces ID cooldown by 1 IF he crits. K2SO crit is usually around 35%. Then you have GK throwing around crit immunity on your enemy. Chopper on the other hand is super fast and has two specials which each reduce ID by 1-3 depending on how many Resistance allies have Secret Intel. Choppers assist happens when YOUR super fast droids attack. K2SO counters only happen whenever the enemy gets a turn finally.

You can disagree all you want. I've watched plenty of videos with Chopper and played against him as well as having played a lot with K2S0... this isn't a theory. Chopper doesn't reduce ID any faster than K2S0 does.

"Ciel_6;c-1421437" wrote:
And kylo had a Sith tag.

Yes, yes. Bring up the fact that I misremembered something I had little experience with after many months, many months ago, to discredit my many hours of current gaming experience in the top 10 of my arena bracket about this particular topic.

Your post makes no valid point sir. The comparison is simply not a comparison. Or should I call you troll instead of sir, because all you are doing is trolling right now?

"Woodroward;c-1421432" wrote:

"Trollsbane;c-1421428" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1421404" wrote:

"Trollsbane;c-1421402" wrote:
Chopper is also MUCH faster than K2SO and has two special abilities. The speed and 2 specials help spread around Secret Intel faster which feeds TM to Rey and also gets your Illuminated Destiny off sooner.

Meh, I use K2 in my JTR squad. I have played against someone using Chopper in theirs. Not impressed with Chopper over K2 personally.

For the record: Chopper does NOT make ID proc faster than K2. Counterattacks off of forced taunt from R2 and his own taunt mean all his crits decrease it just as fast... even if K2 never took a turn.

I disagree. K2SO only reduces ID cooldown by 1 IF he crits. K2SO crit is usually around 35%. Then you have GK throwing around crit immunity on your enemy. Chopper on the other hand is super fast and has two specials which each reduce ID by 1-3 depending on how many Resistance allies have Secret Intel. Choppers assist happens when YOUR super fast droids attack. K2SO counters only happen whenever the enemy gets a turn finally.

You can disagree all you want. I've watched plenty of videos with Chopper and played against him as well as having played a lot with K2S0... this isn't a theory. Chopper doesn't reduce ID any faster than K2S0 does.

Meh whatever. You're wrong about chopper and you would know this if you geared him up.

"Trollsbane;c-1421500" wrote:
Meh whatever. You're wrong about chopper and you would know this if you geared him up.

You've got that backwards son.You're wrong about K2. I'm not underestimating Chopper. You're underestimating K2. Which you'd know if YOU geared up K2. You probably haven't even faced one under JTR yet.

"cannon_fodder_jr;c-1421548" wrote:
I have a RJT comp on my shard with Chopper and another with Ben and the Chopper one is mildly more annoying. K2 would be a much bigger pain than either of them because of his taunt on counter attack, which would require one more buff immunity / dispel and it would devalue Baze's AoE dispel (a sneaky useful toon again now that RJT is predominant, please stealth everyone first R2, pretty please). He also provides offense down on his basic, which is really under appreciated when going against damage burst teams like CLS / Han. Since JTR teams become pretty easy once Rey is gone, and fracturing Rey is the easiest and quickest way to do that, having another toon that can prevent that fracture from happening would be very useful, providing more time to get BB-8 rolling, pun intended.

Chopper in the lineup just requires an extra turn to wait to fracture Rey since his taunt doesn't last long. I actually find the teams with a well geared and modded Han tougher, because they have some offense.

That's more like it! You've got some respect for the K2.

Raid Han hardly hurts my K2S0. He often kills himself attacking him.

Some math: My K2 has 47.6% armor. Lets say Raid Han crits for 30k on his basic: 30k * 52.4/100 * 0.5 = only 7860 damage Raid Han does to my K2 with his basic once K2 has landed offense down on him. He has to attack him something like 11-12 times to kill him (which is about 5 actions of course), and hope he doesn't die first from the counterattacks (which happens a lot).

The big question with any potential "meta", as far as I am concerned, is how does it hold? I have zIPD at 4* g11. He's pretty much a guaranteed win on offense. I've tried IPD with Chopper,OB and GK and none has held as well as double-Bens. K2 is an interesting option, but I have a bit of gearing to do yet. I'm still curious if that extra-special RJT defensive team the devs alluded to has been found.

My probe droid is locked at 45/80.

"Woodroward;c-1421432" wrote:

You can disagree all you want. I've watched plenty of videos with Chopper and played against him as well as having played a lot with K2S0... this isn't a theory. Chopper doesn't reduce ID any faster than K2S0 does.

Chopper has 152 base speed and 2 specials, which reduce ID cooldown by # of allies that have secret intel when used (typically this will be 3-5 when Chopper goes after BB-8 and R-2). He also has a 30% assist chance off these very speedy droids, and has a base physical critical rating higher than K-2S0.

Every time he assists, he has a 60% chance to reduce the speedy droid's CD's by 1 (which applies to their specials AND illuminated destiny).

You're wrong. Trollsbane is right. Unsurprisingly.