Why did they nerf Resistance?Even though the description now match the exposures behavior of RP, RT And Finn, why did they nerfed them although they were not even meta or OP?Zarris user got a chance to reapply their zeta for less than that, here you have three description change and clearly is nerf... Thanks for "respecting our investment".Edit: we should mention here, that we used a slightly modified definition of nerf. We have two perspectives. First is saying RT, RP and Finn were false advertised (as DS can trigger expose and expose again for example), then second, user base and many Reddit reader expected that the behavior was a bugged and the Devs never was contradicted for 5 months by any dev (unlike the coming modification to DN's 1st special who has been said to be under investigation).Edit2: to those who contradict, this is a nerf, this create a precedence in the debug history: if something is not WAI, Devs could solve the issue by changing the description in the detriment to the players who invested in skills and toons and justify it by saying it happened to Resistance. So think about twice before disagreeing.

Fixing something that hasn't worked correctly is not a nerf.

"Nikoms565;c-1060065" wrote:Fixing something that hasn't worked correctly is not a nerf. Agreed. This was a case of "not WAI". Same for my Zader. C'est la vie. It was good while it lasted.

but what exactly is not working as intended in this case? stacked exposes? then does that mean Jyn's lead won't result in stacked exposes? or that JKA can't stack exposes on himself as well? if that's what's to be fixed, then fix it across the board. and why wouldn't poe's skill mention the same exact thing?

Yep:/ res is dead now. Glad I haven't zeta'd r2s cleanse zeta yet at least...

"Nikoms565;c-1060065" wrote:Fixing something that hasn't worked correctly is not a nerf. Description did not say they could not expose over expose. And now they do. So now is worse than before, is it so hard to understand? Even though de facto nothing changed.Zader correction is indeed not working as intended, but not Resistance expose.

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SnakesssOnAPlan
8 years ago
"M_L;c-1060082" wrote:
i don't have Jyn zeta'd but i've seen some videos where under her lead, rebels do stack exposes on the opponent.

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Neo2551
8 years ago
"Klocko;c-1060077" wrote:
I don't have Jyn unlocked yet, my Poe is weak, and I've never seen JKA stack exposes on himself, so I couldn't really say since I've never seen the phenomenon. I also didn't realize there was something wrong with Eeth Koth, because...Eeth Koth.

What's the difference between one expose and multiple? 1 expose = your shoulder sticking out from behind cover, while 2 = standing out in the open, and 3 = painting a bullseye on your chest? (Pretty sure that's exactly it actually)

Go say that to Cassian, Jyn and Darth Sidious.
JacenRoe
8 years ago
"Neo2551;c-1060087" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060084" wrote:
Um... they have not changed. Only the description changed. It was listed under non-functional changes. They already weren't applying expose over expose. They just changed the text to make it clearer that it's doing what it's supposed to. Not a nerf. Just a typo.

Fact: Zarris got a Zeta refund for a single toon description.

Resistance got three description's modification and it was not clear from the beginning that the expose should not stacked.

Zarriss actually had her ability changed too. The way it worked in game was altered. The resistance abilities work the same. No change in game whatsoever. Only text description has changed.
Neo2551
8 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1060092" wrote:
"Neo2551;c-1060087" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060084" wrote:
Um... they have not changed. Only the description changed. It was listed under non-functional changes. They already weren't applying expose over expose. They just changed the text to make it clearer that it's doing what it's supposed to. Not a nerf. Just a typo.

Fact: Zarris got a Zeta refund for a single toon description.

Resistance got three description's modification and it was not clear from the beginning that the expose should not stacked.

Zarriss actually had her ability changed too. The way it worked in game was altered. The resistance abilities work the same. No change in game whatsoever. Only text description has changed.

Ok. I am going to talk to you differently.

They sold a product with a better description than what it really was. Under EU laws, it is called false advertising, and then they correct it. I think you are smart enough to understand what I incinuate.
taytayh
8 years ago
I'm just glad they didn't change Poe's taunt to not expose already exposed targets. Now that would have been a nerf.

What they could have done while they were at it was make exposed toons a priority target.
JacenRoe
8 years ago
"Neo2551;c-1060098" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060092" wrote:
"Neo2551;c-1060087" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060084" wrote:
Um... they have not changed. Only the description changed. It was listed under non-functional changes. They already weren't applying expose over expose. They just changed the text to make it clearer that it's doing what it's supposed to. Not a nerf. Just a typo.

Fact: Zarris got a Zeta refund for a single toon description.

Resistance got three description's modification and it was not clear from the beginning that the expose should not stacked.

Zarriss actually had her ability changed too. The way it worked in game was altered. The resistance abilities work the same. No change in game whatsoever. Only text description has changed.

Ok. I am going to talk to you differently.

They sold a product with a better description than what it really was. Under EU laws, it is called false advertising, and then they correct it. I think you are smart enough to understand what I incinuate.

Makes perfect sense. And I'm telling you that you started a thread asking why a character was nerfed when they are not being nerfed. The character has not been altered in any way. If you payed for them they will work identically to the the way they worked before. Absolutely nothing has changed about the function of the character. And that is what you were stating happened. Perhaps you wrote the ability descriptions. That would explain why they didn't make sense.
polski_al
8 years ago
It seems pretty clear this was a nerf.

They didn't work as per the description. All other toons have been fixed so they work as had been described whereas here the description has been changed to match what they did.
Neo2551
8 years ago
"SpendsAlot;c-1060099" wrote:
Your fault for taking advantage of a bug, be glad they don't hold back rewards for arena payout for the amount of time you took advantage of it.

Shame on you xD no one FORCED you to do this, just like no one FORCED you to zeta Vader or Barris?

Also you do remember they refunded zeta on barris? And why do you think that is....because description was not completely accurate so technically it was an unexpected change per say

This you should have seen it coming because no where has the description changed.

How could we profit from something that was not working?
Neo2551
8 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1060106" wrote:
"Neo2551;c-1060098" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060092" wrote:
"Neo2551;c-1060087" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1060084" wrote:
Um... they have not changed. Only the description changed. It was listed under non-functional changes. They already weren't applying expose over expose. They just changed the text to make it clearer that it's doing what it's supposed to. Not a nerf. Just a typo.

Fact: Zarris got a Zeta refund for a single toon description.

Resistance got three description's modification and it was not clear from the beginning that the expose should not stacked.

Zarriss actually had her ability changed too. The way it worked in game was altered. The resistance abilities work the same. No change in game whatsoever. Only text description has changed.

Ok. I am going to talk to you differently.

They sold a product with a better description than what it really was. Under EU laws, it is called false advertising, and then they correct it. I think you are smart enough to understand what I incinuate.

Makes perfect sense. And I'm telling you that you started a thread asking why a character was nerfed when they are not being nerfed. The character has not been altered in any way. If you payed for them they will work identically to the the way they worked before. Absolutely nothing has changed about the function of the character. And that is what you were stating happened. Perhaps you wrote the ability descriptions. That would explain why they didn't make sense.

No, when you read first the description before change, you expect it behaves like the Jyn, Cassian and Darth sidious amd even JKA. There is no mention of expose over expose.
SomeSignNaw
8 years ago
"SpendsAlot;c-1060099" wrote:
Your fault for taking advantage of a bug,

What the...? It is a customer's responsibility to know when something is not working properly? Don't they have their own test team to do that? If the test team is not doing their work then fire them!

It's not our responsibility. We are not paid for beta testing the product.

We make decisions by observation as that is our only clue. In this case it didn't seem incorrect. NO ONE cried in the forums to nerf the exposes from Resistance, they were not a problem.