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7 years ago

Traya's Unique is Negating Stun Inappropriately

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NotRealUltra

Legend

7 years ago

It is working as intended and not a bug

Sith under Traya can be stunned, but Traya dispels the stun so that she cannot miss her turn. By missing a turn, the meaning is that the character cannot perform any ability and simply passes.

Immunity wouldn't make sense because there are ways to stick stun and bypass the unique such as using Mother Talzin's plague. Traya cannot dispel stun under plague which was a popular strategy used when Traya was initially released. Making them immune would void this and other forms of stun / stun interactions, such as Kylo Ren Unmasked's special ability dealing 2x damage against a stunned Traya before she could move and stun immunity would be changing the unique entirely. Also, stun prevents evasion, and is negatively affecting the character during the duration of stun. It allows some characters to do more or less damage depending on the abilities of said character and Traya loses 5% of her max health due to the debuff. It is incorrect to say that stun is a debuff that does nothing to a stunned character while the TM is not at 100%

GladOS-013

Hero (Retired)

7 years ago

Hi, thanks for the report! One thing I can't verify right now is the specific wording on the Stun debuff - you say that it says the character "misses their turn." If this wording is in-game, then the verbiage should be updated, because that is not an accurate description.

Characters that are stunned still take a turn. A turn goes something like this:
1. Beginning of turn - any effects that trigger "at beginning of turn" happen now.
2. Main phase - this is the part where your character gets an opportunity to use a skill.
3. End of turn - this is the last part of the turn, where "end of turn" effects trigger. Each of the character's skill cooldowns decreases by 1. Any effects (buffs or debuffs) that expire at the end of turn will now expire.

The way stun works - nothing happens at beginning of turn. The character is stunned, so does not get an opportunity to take an action during its "main phase." Then the "end of turn" occurs, the character's cooldowns are reduced, stun is removed, turn meter bar is reset to 0, and then play proceeds to the next character's turn.

The interaction with Traya's unique means that at the beginning of that character's turn, Traya removed the stun and deals 5% damage to that character. Then when the character reaches its main phase, it is no longer stunned, so can take an action like normally.

This is different to immunity to stun in several key ways:
Immunity to stun means they will never be stunned. A stunned Count Dooku will not counterattack when he takes damage. The Sith that should have been stunned would not lose 5% health from the stun debuff being cleared. Most importantly - if you kill Traya before the stunned character gets a turn, that character will stay stunned. If it were immune to stun, it would have never been stunned in the first place.

So Traya's zeta providing stun immunity to all Sith would be considerably stronger than its current effects.

GladOS-013
Hero (Retired)
7 years ago
@CG_MindTricks I believe that @Daronk77 had identified a bug in the in game description of Stun.

stun says: "turn will be missed."

that is an oversimplification tha can lead to confusion.
- Daronk77
  Not applicable
  7 years ago
  Yeah there it is. My issue was with how the two skills are interacting based on the descriptions. For me, I’m currently using a team that doesn’t get of the secondary benefits of stun, and only really benefits from the primary, takes no action component. And since I was seeing stun described as above, I was confused.
  thanks for posting the pic.
  - GladOS-013
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago
    Absolutely. Thanks for pointing out the confusion due to the description in-game! Hopefully we've helped you understand the intended interaction between stuns and Traya's unique, and hopefully the description will be updated to reduce confusion for future players!