Ts4 destroyed my ability to enjoy ts2

@SimAlexandria thanks for sharing those lovely photos of your gameplay. I don't normally play with more than one toddler at a time but you've inspired me to give it a try.

TS2 is far from perfect, but animations and the sims themselves feel much more alive.

"SimAlexandria;c-17617096" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17617066" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17616559" wrote:


Those screenshots are great! The action in them looks very natural. I can’t imagine looking after all those toddlers in my game. Just having one of them is mayhem (so I naturally tend to skip that life stage :s ).

The first image had me chuckle because of my stupid sense of humor:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:


The little toddler building a sandcastle with her dad has a dirty nappy. No one in the image seems to have noticed, except for that little guy on the far left. The stench appears to have affected his ability to think.

Hahahahaha! Yes, that's little Lloyd with the dirty nappy. His dad changed it right afterwards as it had just happened but I never noticed his stepbrother Corey covering his nose before!! That is hilarious!!!!

And it IS mayham but I usually handle the little ones just fine haha! Completing 100 baby challenge taught me a lot haha, and while I play them a lot, if my focus for the day happens to be an older sim, I'll just cheat up their needs to make it easy lol!!

Ah, Lloyd is a little boy! :D
I can’t even imagine how someone is able to complete the 100 baby challenge! Fair play! How long does it take?

I often start a new household or a new save whenever a baby is born in my household.
Usually the sims I play happen to be (unintentionally) runaway dads.....
...gosh it’s awful now I think of it. ?

Haha I think 100 baby challenge took me around 9 months.. About the time it took to have a real baby.. Except mine was born at 8 months so I guess longer lol!! Honestly I've been wanting to do it again but haven't had a chance yet lol

9 months?! ? So that’s roughly a 100 simulated babies for every single real baby...

I have nothing but appreciation for mothers. The real life ones and the simulated ones.

I never participate in challenges, but the next time I play The Sims, Im going start a new save, make a kid and try and raise it. For me that means a minimum of 3 Sims in my household, which is a challenge in itself.
At least it will spice up my game until the next pack is released...and by that time the kid should be grown up, and can (hopefully) go on a Space Adventure and become an Interstellar Smuggler.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17617066" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17616559" wrote:


Those screenshots are great! The action in them looks very natural. I can’t imagine looking after all those toddlers in my game. Just having one of them is mayhem (so I naturally tend to skip that life stage :s ).

The first image had me chuckle because of my stupid sense of humor:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:


The little toddler building a sandcastle with her dad has a dirty nappy. No one in the image seems to have noticed, except for that little guy on the far left. The stench appears to have affected his ability to think.

Hahahahaha! Yes, that's little Lloyd with the dirty nappy. His dad changed it right afterwards as it had just happened but I never noticed his stepbrother Corey covering his nose before!! That is hilarious!!!!

And it IS mayham but I usually handle the little ones just fine haha! Completing 100 baby challenge taught me a lot haha, and while I play them a lot, if my focus for the day happens to be an older sim, I'll just cheat up their needs to make it easy lol!!

Ah, Lloyd is a little boy! :D
I can’t even imagine how someone is able to complete the 100 baby challenge! Fair play! How long does it take?

I often start a new household or a new save whenever a baby is born in my household.
Usually the sims I play happen to be (unintentionally) runaway dads.....
...gosh it’s awful now I think of it. ?

Haha I think 100 baby challenge took me around 9 months.. About the time it took to have a real baby.. Except mine was born at 8 months so I guess longer lol!! Honestly I've been wanting to do it again but haven't had a chance yet lol

"SimAlexandria;c-17616559" wrote:


Those screenshots are great! The action in them looks very natural. I can’t imagine looking after all those toddlers in my game. Just having one of them is mayhem (so I naturally tend to skip that life stage :s ).

The first image had me chuckle because of my stupid sense of humor:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:


The little toddler building a sandcastle with her dad has a dirty nappy. No one in the image seems to have noticed, except for that little guy on the far left. The stench appears to have affected his ability to think.

Hahahahaha! Yes, that's little Lloyd with the dirty nappy. His dad changed it right afterwards as it had just happened but I never noticed his stepbrother Corey covering his nose before!! That is hilarious!!!!

And it IS mayham but I usually handle the little ones just fine haha! Completing 100 baby challenge taught me a lot haha, and while I play them a lot, if my focus for the day happens to be an older sim, I'll just cheat up their needs to make it easy lol!!

Ah, Lloyd is a little boy! :D
I can’t even imagine how someone is able to complete the 100 baby challenge! Fair play! How long does it take?

I often start a new household or a new save whenever a baby is born in my household.
Usually the sims I play happen to be (unintentionally) runaway dads.....
...gosh it’s awful now I think of it. ?

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17616351" wrote:
@SimAlexandria

Those screenshots are great! The action in them looks very natural. I can’t imagine looking after all those toddlers in my game. Just having one of them is mayhem (so I naturally tend to skip that life stage :s ).

The first image had me chuckle because of my stupid sense of humor:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:


https://i.imgur.com/69ma10z.png

The little toddler building a sandcastle with her dad has a dirty nappy. No one in the image seems to have noticed, except for that little guy on the far left. The stench appears to have affected his ability to think.

Hahahahaha! Yes, that's little Lloyd with the dirty nappy. His dad changed it right afterwards as it had just happened but I never noticed his stepbrother Corey covering his nose before!! That is hilarious!!!!

And it IS mayham but I usually handle the little ones just fine haha! Completing 100 baby challenge taught me a lot haha, and while I play them a lot, if my focus for the day happens to be an older sim, I'll just cheat up their needs to make it easy lol!!

One of the biggest problems I see about TS4 is how it has changed what was supposed to be a game about fun things that happen to humans. The Sims to me was always a parody of life. Good, bad, the ugly. But these days all we hear is someone saying we aren't playing it right. We aren't diverse enough, we don't have enough diversity in our town we might be playing, when the person might be imagining a themed place and Sims. That we don't have enough diversity in genders in our played game, but the person may be playing all dwarfs, or hobbits which happened to have been male in the eye of their mind. Or that we shouldn't be playing a Victorian aged game because of women's suffrage.

Over and over again we see on forums and fansites how we are playing TS4 all wrong. That no it's not a game where you can imagine anything or about anything but we must conform to the idea it's a representation game of ourselves and if we aren't representing all peoples in our little town we are not playing TS4 correctly. Many, many times we are asked in polls how many of this or that do we have in our game. As if, if we don't then we aren't playing this game correctly.

It truly is the take away I see from how we just used to enjoy playing The Sims, or TS2 or even TS3, where we imagined anything and everything and played our way, but with TS4 if you don't play the way somone else thinks you should be playing then you are shamed and disgraced for your lack of diversity in your game, all the while those same players who have the loudest voices would never want any faith Sims in their game or yours, because that would be the wrong type of representation, just anyone else but not that.

TS4 to me is one of the worst games that represents any type of fun such as I enjoy alien and vampires, werewolves etc. but if the 'human' representational Sim is afriad of and or dislikes any of those fantasy characters( which is funny to me) we are told then the game is bigoted toward aliens and vampires etc.

It's all about this is the way it should be played and if we are told here and every where if we don't agree with that or them and still see The Sims as a parody of life and imaginations then we aren't playing it right. We are told it's not about that at all but how diverse we can look to others.

Those are my feelings from the heart and it is only some of the reasons I play the older games where I have an actual safe space (as if I ever needed one) where I can enjoy the games my way without any judgement on my game play or if I have green Sims or purple Sims in my games. Or no females and or males or any other identified gender because I might have all gargoles in my game. But that wouldn't be divese enough for some.

And the very sad thing is Maxis agrees with most players who are telling the rest of us we aren't playing TS4 right.

I'm thankful Will Wright undestood gameplay and why TS1 and TS2 or still so well loved. Safe to play anything we could imagine. And even Rod Humble over TS3 also understood this, it's about the depth and the gameplay and not representation. Those are why those games are so well loved so much. It's call freedom to play our way.

@SimAlexandria

Those screenshots are great! The action in them looks very natural. I can’t imagine looking after all those toddlers in my game. Just having one of them is mayhem (so I naturally tend to skip that life stage :s ).

The first image had me chuckle because of my stupid sense of humor:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:


https://i.imgur.com/69ma10z.png

The little toddler building a sandcastle with her dad has a dirty nappy. No one in the image seems to have noticed, except for that little guy on the far left. The stench appears to have affected his ability to think.

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17616169" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17616136" wrote:

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17616057" wrote:

"SimAlexandria;c-17613934" wrote:

"Duvelina;c-17613914" wrote:
@SimAlexandria So... What do you do with your sims?

@Duvelina Swim, play on the beach (the all live in Sulani) make sandcastles, they are in a lot of clubs, most my sims are kids and tots so they do outdoor clubs, scouts, homework clubs etc, swingsets, playing dolls, fishing, the adult sims I do play work to conserve the beach and raise their kids (most have 9-14 kids and I use a foster home mod so they always have new foster kids they find adoptive homes for), Sulani festivals and the odd vacation in the Salvadorian jungle. They read books, chat with family, they are all family orientated and love spending time together. Before island living came out they lived in newcrest and spent a lot of time on the playground.

Often I'll write a story and then recreate it in the sims, but often I just have them build relationships with siblings, aunts, uncles etc. The kids train, battle and trade void critters. They pllay cards and don't wake the llama and do group school projects. The adults tell stories to them all, the kids put on puppet shows. They just enjoy life in general!

So you play this over and over and over and over and over and ..... zzzzzzzzzz

In TS2 you can do all these things only better, but there is a WHOLE LOT MORE that a family can do in a LOT MORE places together. Plus they can go to more worlds because it has its own Create a World. Moreover, relationships and personalities are much better implemented.

I know you're trying to make TS4 sound like there's plenty to do and that there is family play and not just single young adult play, but honestly it's so boring! Maybe interesting for just an hour!

@ClarionOfJoy So you say this exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and ..... zzzzzzzzzz

But yes, I do enjoy this style of game play over and over. You find it boring. I find it relaxing. *shrugs*. Honestly, I don't play my game for your entertainment, I play it for mine, therefore, I really couldn't care less if you find my play style boring.

I prefer relationships and personalities in Sims 4 and don't really like the create a world tool. Sims 2 had better animations, but that isn't enough to make the game interesting for me. What I do find boring is having you reply pretty much the exact same thing to me every time I comment something positive about a game I enjoy, telling me how the older not-so-good (for me) versions are better for me.

In fact, I'm bored enough by it that I've put you on ignore for now. Since you are clearly so bothered that I enjoy Sims 4 the most, I'd suggest you ignore me to, but of course, that's up to you.

I also know you keep posting about your gameplay in hopes that other readers will buy the game, but I want them to know that there are far better alternatives.

Apparently I still get notifications anyways if I'm following a thread. Not sure how to fix it. But I think I'll just unfollow the thread. Sorry to the OP, I agree with you but I've nothing else to add to the conversation that is new haha!

But @ClarionOfJoy since I'm here, I may as well reply, I guess. At least to the one bolded line I've quoted. The other stuff is just repeats again which I've already answered you about in the past and I'm bored with telling you the same thing. But that one line was new to me. Also Someone pm'd me that apparently my last line was not allowed to be posted, so I've edited to remove. I apologize.


I post about my game play because I love the game. It's enjoyable to me, and I love talking about it with others who also love it. Chatting about what my sims are doing, my families, etc if fun for me. And... in this case, because I was directly asked about my game play style?

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I want readers to buy sims 4 lol!!!

I've never said that and don't even think it. I'm not EA's salesperson so I couldn't care less what others buy!! (Unless they are buying it for me as a gift, but that hasn't happened ever hahaha!) In fact, I'm not really a sales type personality at all.

I don't even recommend sims 4 over sims 2 or 3 to people that right out ask which one to buy, which I see on reddit quite a bit. When people ask what version to buy I say something along the lines of: "My personal preference is Sims 4 but I know a lot of others prefer 2 or 3, so it all depends on what you are looking for. Sims 2 has deeper personalities and the best animations, sims 3 has an open world and colour wheel and more realistic looking sims, sims 4 has a nicer art style, a gallery to share sims/builds with others, they are more cartoony and the sims are better if you like to use your imagination to create stories (which is the most important thing for me but not everyone's cup of tea). I'd recommend checking out some let's play videos on each version and pick the one you think you'd like best. All three are great games depending on what you are looking for, however you may have trouble finding sims 2 as it's not available for sale by EA anymore so if you prefer that one you'll likely need to purchase second hand somewhere. Also, make sure to check that whatever version you like will run okay on your computer."

And then there's a few people that ask that it's obvious which version would be best for them so I recommend that version regardless of what it is and the one time I told someone that, based on what they were saying, I didn't think they'd like any version.

However, when people ask about my personal playstyle and what I do in the game, which was the case here, I'm quite happy to chat about my sims and what I love about Sims 4 because, after all, it's my fav of the bunch. ANd sometimes talking about games that you love can be fun. At least... for me.