EA you are violating your own terms

"phoebebebe13;15283969" wrote:

"faytheful;15283956" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283936" wrote:

"faytheful;15283884" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283690" wrote:

"faytheful;15283382" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15282132" wrote:

"faytheful;15281496" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281276" wrote:

"faytheful;15281101" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281091" wrote:
@faytheful no offense but this patch 1.69 has been going on for a year. There are several threads on this issue where if you use any new downloads you will be forced to patch 1.69. There is a sticky thread here in gen discussions and one in tech. My only advice is to get your money back from the new downloads you bought and buy them on disc to stay at 1.67.

that may be but I don't spend that much time on this site and I've never had a reason to research it. I never read the threads so I didn't know.
I knew about the game requiring Origin to run but didn't know about the game being updated as a requirement to install.

Unfortunately your a new comer to the dreadful news of this new patch. There are many of us who went out and made sure we bought the game all disc and some hit up a steam sale to buy the whole game there to stay at 1.67 . These would be the two best options to stay away from the 1.69 patch otherwise your stuck with the 1.69 patch if you use any origin downloads

I knew about the patch to 1.69 and when it came out decided I didn't want it so I didn't patch my game & didn't upgrade Origin.
I just didn't know if I bought something for Sims 3 I would have to patch my game to install it.
I tried to stay away from 1.69 too. That's why they made me upgrade because I was at 1.67, but the reason for making me do it
still doesn't sit right for me. I only did it because I had already purchased the 2 stuff packs & the message said you have to upgrade the
game to install new content. After I did it though, I realized it was something I really didn't want to do & was the reason my game was at
1.67 in the first place. So I rolled back my system and uninstalled Origin, and was still in a bad situation because I couldn't install my stuff packs.
It is a lose lose situation.

at first you could still download packs and eps you did not have , uninstall the base game, reinstall it and patch to 1.67 and get rid of patch 1.69. When EA figured out people could do this, they changed it to make sure that anyone who uses origin downloads must patch to 1.69. If you tried to uninstall the base game origin would remove any new eps or packs you added

that's awful, its like strong arm.
There must be another reason why they want everyone on Origin besides games on their server.
I think I know what it is but I'm not for sure so not saying much about it.

EA wanted to make all the money for their games and not share with other companies. Origin came about after steam existed. Steam no longer sells EA games accept those games they had permission to sell prior to origin existing.

oh & who suffers, the little guys

Exactly. Its all about the money. It costs money to print discs. Like I said the sims 4 discs are useless you still need to be on line. Its much cheaper for a company to do download exclusive to the company where they make more money. No middle man, no printing discs. I dont even know why they put the sims 4 base game on disc when you still need to download stuff with the disc. Everything else is download for that game. This is why my house owns 3ds and playstations where you still have the option to play without internet access also some new playstation games require download for extra content. At least you still have the option to not have internet.

yep good deal that (games that can play without internet)
I have a few of those on my computer

I prefer not to play with the internet. We have power outages a lot where I live. 3ds, my kindle and my phone come in handy to pass the time watching movies, reading or playing games off line in candle light :p

wish I could figure out a way to install & play my Sims 3 game without the internet. (well really Origin because Origin
is the main problem )
I still have Supernatural I bought but never installed too & now thinking I will never get to install it
unless I give in to doing it their way.

"faytheful;15283974" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283969" wrote:

"faytheful;15283956" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283936" wrote:

"faytheful;15283884" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283690" wrote:

"faytheful;15283382" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15282132" wrote:

"faytheful;15281496" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281276" wrote:

"faytheful;15281101" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281091" wrote:
@faytheful no offense but this patch 1.69 has been going on for a year. There are several threads on this issue where if you use any new downloads you will be forced to patch 1.69. There is a sticky thread here in gen discussions and one in tech. My only advice is to get your money back from the new downloads you bought and buy them on disc to stay at 1.67.

that may be but I don't spend that much time on this site and I've never had a reason to research it. I never read the threads so I didn't know.
I knew about the game requiring Origin to run but didn't know about the game being updated as a requirement to install.

Unfortunately your a new comer to the dreadful news of this new patch. There are many of us who went out and made sure we bought the game all disc and some hit up a steam sale to buy the whole game there to stay at 1.67 . These would be the two best options to stay away from the 1.69 patch otherwise your stuck with the 1.69 patch if you use any origin downloads

I knew about the patch to 1.69 and when it came out decided I didn't want it so I didn't patch my game & didn't upgrade Origin.
I just didn't know if I bought something for Sims 3 I would have to patch my game to install it.
I tried to stay away from 1.69 too. That's why they made me upgrade because I was at 1.67, but the reason for making me do it
still doesn't sit right for me. I only did it because I had already purchased the 2 stuff packs & the message said you have to upgrade the
game to install new content. After I did it though, I realized it was something I really didn't want to do & was the reason my game was at
1.67 in the first place. So I rolled back my system and uninstalled Origin, and was still in a bad situation because I couldn't install my stuff packs.
It is a lose lose situation.

at first you could still download packs and eps you did not have , uninstall the base game, reinstall it and patch to 1.67 and get rid of patch 1.69. When EA figured out people could do this, they changed it to make sure that anyone who uses origin downloads must patch to 1.69. If you tried to uninstall the base game origin would remove any new eps or packs you added

that's awful, its like strong arm.
There must be another reason why they want everyone on Origin besides games on their server.
I think I know what it is but I'm not for sure so not saying much about it.

EA wanted to make all the money for their games and not share with other companies. Origin came about after steam existed. Steam no longer sells EA games accept those games they had permission to sell prior to origin existing.

oh & who suffers, the little guys

Exactly. Its all about the money. It costs money to print discs. Like I said the sims 4 discs are useless you still need to be on line. Its much cheaper for a company to do download exclusive to the company where they make more money. No middle man, no printing discs. I dont even know why they put the sims 4 base game on disc when you still need to download stuff with the disc. Everything else is download for that game. This is why my house owns 3ds and playstations where you still have the option to play without internet access also some new playstation games require download for extra content. At least you still have the option to not have internet.

yep good deal that (games that can play without internet)
I have a few of those on my computer

I prefer not to play with the internet. We have power outages a lot where I live. 3ds, my kindle and my phone come in handy to pass the time watching movies, reading or playing games off line in candle light :p

wish I could figure out a way to install & play my Sims 3 game without the internet. (well really Origin because Origin
is the main problem )
I still have Supernatural I bought but never installed too & now thinking I will never get to install it
unless I give in to doing it their way.

I play without internet/origin but I have the old download version base game that does not require origin. My whole game was installed before EA got rid of that base game download that does not require origin and forced everyone to the 1.69 patch. If I ever have to reinstall, I have the whole game on disc so I'm covered there as long as my disc drive does not break. If that happened I would buy the whole game on steam.

IMO Supernatural is the best EP . So many have been forced to the 1.69 patch. Many say their game still runs fine and some have issues.

"phoebebebe13;15283986" wrote:

"faytheful;15283974" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283969" wrote:

"faytheful;15283956" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283936" wrote:

"faytheful;15283884" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15283690" wrote:

"faytheful;15283382" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15282132" wrote:

"faytheful;15281496" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281276" wrote:

"faytheful;15281101" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;15281091" wrote:
@faytheful no offense but this patch 1.69 has been going on for a year. There are several threads on this issue where if you use any new downloads you will be forced to patch 1.69. There is a sticky thread here in gen discussions and one in tech. My only advice is to get your money back from the new downloads you bought and buy them on disc to stay at 1.67.

that may be but I don't spend that much time on this site and I've never had a reason to research it. I never read the threads so I didn't know.
I knew about the game requiring Origin to run but didn't know about the game being updated as a requirement to install.

Unfortunately your a new comer to the dreadful news of this new patch. There are many of us who went out and made sure we bought the game all disc and some hit up a steam sale to buy the whole game there to stay at 1.67 . These would be the two best options to stay away from the 1.69 patch otherwise your stuck with the 1.69 patch if you use any origin downloads

I knew about the patch to 1.69 and when it came out decided I didn't want it so I didn't patch my game & didn't upgrade Origin.
I just didn't know if I bought something for Sims 3 I would have to patch my game to install it.
I tried to stay away from 1.69 too. That's why they made me upgrade because I was at 1.67, but the reason for making me do it
still doesn't sit right for me. I only did it because I had already purchased the 2 stuff packs & the message said you have to upgrade the
game to install new content. After I did it though, I realized it was something I really didn't want to do & was the reason my game was at
1.67 in the first place. So I rolled back my system and uninstalled Origin, and was still in a bad situation because I couldn't install my stuff packs.
It is a lose lose situation.

at first you could still download packs and eps you did not have , uninstall the base game, reinstall it and patch to 1.67 and get rid of patch 1.69. When EA figured out people could do this, they changed it to make sure that anyone who uses origin downloads must patch to 1.69. If you tried to uninstall the base game origin would remove any new eps or packs you added

that's awful, its like strong arm.
There must be another reason why they want everyone on Origin besides games on their server.
I think I know what it is but I'm not for sure so not saying much about it.

EA wanted to make all the money for their games and not share with other companies. Origin came about after steam existed. Steam no longer sells EA games accept those games they had permission to sell prior to origin existing.

oh & who suffers, the little guys

Exactly. Its all about the money. It costs money to print discs. Like I said the sims 4 discs are useless you still need to be on line. Its much cheaper for a company to do download exclusive to the company where they make more money. No middle man, no printing discs. I dont even know why they put the sims 4 base game on disc when you still need to download stuff with the disc. Everything else is download for that game. This is why my house owns 3ds and playstations where you still have the option to play without internet access also some new playstation games require download for extra content. At least you still have the option to not have internet.

yep good deal that (games that can play without internet)
I have a few of those on my computer

I prefer not to play with the internet. We have power outages a lot where I live. 3ds, my kindle and my phone come in handy to pass the time watching movies, reading or playing games off line in candle light :p

wish I could figure out a way to install & play my Sims 3 game without the internet. (well really Origin because Origin
is the main problem )
I still have Supernatural I bought but never installed too & now thinking I will never get to install it
unless I give in to doing it their way.

I play without internet/origin but I have the old download version base game that does not require origin. My whole game was installed before EA got rid of that base game download that does not require origin and forced everyone to the 1.69 patch. If I ever have to reinstall, I have the whole game on disc so I'm covered there as long as my disc drive does not break. If that happened I would buy the whole game on steam.

IMO Supernatural is the best EP . So many have been forced to the 1.69 patch. Many say their game still runs fine and some have issues.

most of my game is on disk too.
I downloaded these two stuff packs from Origin, but I have base game, Ambitions, World Adventures, Showtime, University, Seasons, Island Paradise, Late night & Generations on disk.
I also have Pets, (forgot I had, just didn't install) and Supernatural (not installed)
I bought some stuff packs, guess I bought them online because I don't have disks here.
They are high end loft, outdoor living stuff, Master Suite & Fast lane stuff.

edit: forgot the 2 stuff packs I just bought; Town Life stuff & Diesel

of all this Town Life, Diesel, Supernatural & Pets is not installed.
And considering what I just went through doubtful they will be installed.
Unless when I get the disks for Diesel & Town life I purchased they will install with no problem.
And if they do, maybe Supernatural & Pets will install too

Wasted money.

now Origin has a new terms & conditions reminding all the game is "as is" we use it at our own risk, they collect information including machine ID numbers and ip, we only are licensed to use the software, and they can discontinue the account anytime they want.
hope this wasn't for my benefit.
don't mean to be a complainer but Origin is like a ball & chain around my neck. It's extremely cumbersome to have to sign in everytime
we want to play & it requires lots of updates.
So worried if I update what may break. Will be so disappointed if can't play Sims 3 anymore.
Sims 4 is an okay game, but like Sims 3 better.

"McTosh;15280841" wrote:
This why I use steam and not origin :pensive:

Bought all eps/sps off there and still on 1.67

no yucky origin for me! origin=malware IMO

Me too!!! Steam all the way. :)

"faytheful;15328002" wrote:
now Origin has a new terms & conditions reminding all the game is "as is" we use it at our own risk, they collect information including machine ID numbers and ip, we only are licensed to use the software, and they can discontinue the account anytime they want.
hope this wasn't for my benefit.
don't mean to be a complainer but Origin is like a ball & chain around my neck. It's extremely cumbersome to have to sign in everytime
we want to play & it requires lots of updates.
So worried if I update what may break. Will be so disappointed if can't play Sims 3 anymore.
Sims 4 is an okay game, but like Sims 3 better.

Seems I'd better continue to not buy any more games from them in future. They charge way too much for something they want to cut us off from at any time. If it were free then I wouldn't have a problem - it would just be a disappointment. But if it is something I've paid hundreds of dollars for I would be extremely not happy if they made an executive decision to just block us from continuing to use it.

"Karritz;15328450" wrote:

"faytheful;15328002" wrote:
now Origin has a new terms & conditions reminding all the game is "as is" we use it at our own risk, they collect information including machine ID numbers and ip, we only are licensed to use the software, and they can discontinue the account anytime they want.
hope this wasn't for my benefit.
don't mean to be a complainer but Origin is like a ball & chain around my neck. It's extremely cumbersome to have to sign in everytime
we want to play & it requires lots of updates.
So worried if I update what may break. Will be so disappointed if can't play Sims 3 anymore.
Sims 4 is an okay game, but like Sims 3 better.

Seems I'd better continue to not buy any more games from them in future. They charge way too much for something they want to cut us off from at any time. If it were free then I wouldn't have a problem - it would just be a disappointment. But if it is something I've paid hundreds of dollars for I would be extremely not happy if they made an executive decision to just block us from continuing to use it.

me either !
Especially since I've been trying to do this thing where all the Sims I've played & maxed out I want to put together in one town
to see who chooses who as a mate & watch them live their lives.
The fact that they chose to re-iterate how they can discontinue a persons account at any time really disturbs me.
And that fact that we can't delete our account with them disturbs me as well.
I really don't like the tone they are setting.

"SimChickee;15328508" wrote:
They don't run the show with me that's for sure, I am running sims 3 with all EPs etc and no origin, and I will never use origin for ts1/2/3 ever.

yea I'm going to do the same. Aggravating it is to be subjected to a program that keeps reminding how they call the shots, you're subjected to them to just play the game.
I tried to click on the icon on my desktop & it said I had to sign in. I tried to close Origin after the game was launched & it said it cannot close because Sims 3 is open.
Yesterday I tried to sign on while offline & got this "you must be online when logging in for the first time"
(would post a pic but service I use to do that with is down right now)
But its getting ridiculous & today I was going to play Sims 3 and they hit me with Origin needs to update & the new terms of agreement.
I didn't even sign in, because I'm very leery of the Origin updates with Sims 3 and if they break the game I'll be very upset.
I have every store world, almost every EP, every GP, every SP with exception of 2-3, and A LOT of store bought items. A lot of sets, premium content etc

"SimChickee;15328569" wrote:
@faytheful - do whatever you gotta do to avoid Origin, I know I would. I don't like being locked in, in fact I refuse to be locked in. :P

I refuse to be locked in too & have every intention of figuring out a way to play without Origin. I get that we are just LICENSED to use the software, as EA is so fondly accustomed of reminding us, but to bar us from being able to play unless we "sign in" or give account of our time online, its ridiculous imo.
I don't care enough for TS4 to make that type of sacrifice, being an adult. As I stated before the CEO's of EA are not accountable to us for their time, why should we be accountable to them for ours.
And when I think that I bought two copies of each item, (DL & disk) I get even more frustrated.
I spent a lot of money on Sims 3, not about to let them stop me from playing it.
edited: Right now in a little bit of a freak out mode because am very nervous everytime they update/upgrade Sims 4 which is on their server, Sims 3 might be negatively affected because its on their server too.

"faytheful;15328583" wrote:

"SimChickee;15328569" wrote:
@faytheful - do whatever you gotta do to avoid Origin, I know I would. I don't like being locked in, in fact I refuse to be locked in. :P

I refuse to be locked in too & have every intention of figuring out a way to play without Origin. I get that we are just LICENSED to use the software, as EA is so fondly accustomed of reminding us, but to bar us from being able to play unless we "sign in" or give account of our time online, its ridiculous imo.
I don't care enough for TS4 to make that type of sacrifice, being an adult. As I stated before the CEO's of EA are not accountable to us for their time, why should we be accountable to them for ours.
And when I think that I bought two copies of each item, (DL & disk) I get even more frustrated.
I spent a lot of money on Sims 3, not about to let them stop me from playing it.
edited: Right now in a little bit of a freak out mode because am very nervous everytime they update/upgrade Sims 4 which is on their server, Sims 3 might be negatively affected because its on their server too.

The best way to prevent something happening to your sims 3 game is to own it on steam rather than origin. When you update the sims 4 it won't effect the steam version of TS3. You would have to uninstall the origin version of TS3 and replace it with the steam version. This will keep you at patch 1.67. Steam has sales all the time. If your lucky enough to have two computers keep TS4 on one and TS3 on the other. I don't play 4 so I never open origin to worry about them messing up my TS3 game.