So for the first time since TS3 came out, I am playing an entire neighborhood and doing it rotationally (THANK YOU @igazor!). I created 6 founding families and got them moved in to 6 cheap houses. I've got a few questions:* I don't want my families to incorporate super naturals into the blood lines but it kind of seems like the neighborhood is filling up with them. If I turn off the supernatural beings in the settings, will it just slow down the population or will it mess things up since the neighborhood is already up and running?* If people hang around outside when the zombies are out, can they get attacked and become zombies? It seems like an awful lot of the NPCs in the town are zombies. Last time my Sim went to the hospital, there were 6 zombies hanging around outside the door.* As my families start to have increased income, they could move into more expensive houses. It seems like the houses are filling up with NPCs. Can I safely move NPC families out of the houses (evict) to free them up for my growing families? Does this mess with relationships?* I will check this myself when I get started playing today but are there premade houses that come with the game that can be plopped down on empty lots? Like TS2 had?* My second gen is just now being born but eventually they will be college age. I've never played University. In rotational play, does University just become another rotation meaning the families at home go into the Caste and the University becomes the active household? If so, can I move a group of kids to University so they go to school together?* When I created my 6 founding families, I had specific careers in mind for them. One of my Sims was designed to be a criminal. After he got moved into a house and his spouse was getting to know him, she had the option to ask about his degree. I then noticed that my criminal had a degree in architecture or something. How did that happen? Is it a random thing? * Does going to University and getting a degree give the Sim extra spiffs like TS2?I am off work this week so sorry if I over load you guys with questions. Finally breaking down and installing Naass(sp?) has created a whole new game for me to play.

@Rhiannon58 I guess I can answer a few of those. If you turn off supernatural beings in the "Options", newly generated sims won't be of that supernatural kind. This setting does not affect your own sims. The zombies you see are just temporary. You can turn them off by eliminating the full moon phase (if vanilla). Master Controller gives you much more control in this regard. You can set percentage limits for every supernatural type separately. If I remember correctly, zombies were handled via Retuner. I think it's technically possible your sims can become zombies, but I have never seen it, which means it's probably rare. I'd advise to place at least the elixir consignment store somewhere in your town. Cure elexirs (the standard ones are sufficient and very cheap) are on sale occasionally. Or just make your own. Level 2 alchemy is enough for them, Red Valerian and Mandrake Root are needed (pretty much always on sale in the store, in case you don't have them in the garden). The elixir also comes in handy if you get toadified, unless you have someone capable of casting a sunlight charm. You can evict families and put them somewhere else, yes. If you don't place them anywhere, the game will delete them. Story Progression will keep them as homeless sims, if I remember correctly. Getting them into the game again in that case is difficult, which means you should have a place for them ready, if you want to keep them. Yes, there are premade houses available already in the base game, and more with some EP's. University visits freeze time (this includes aging). You will return at exactly the same moment you left. You can send several sims together, but all of them have to be from the same household (your active one), and they have access to the full household funds. Keep in mind that university, unlike in real life, is a cash cow that keeps on giving, if you want. With two students, you can return with more than 100,000 simoleons more than when you came, if your sims study and you follow the "apply for additional funds" schedule. Non-active sims will sometimes get random degrees assigned, yes. There is a specific subject at university for career criminals available though (the business degree will give you the benefits). Yes, a university degree lets your sim start at a higher career level from the get go (level 4 with an A, level 3 with a B, etc.) and also means a lot more money from the career (also depending on the grade; x2.5 with an A). Of course, you can also choose an additional trait at graduation.

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:I guess I can answer a few of those.You were extremely helpful! Thank you. A few more clarification questions:"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:If you turn off supernatural beings in the "Options", newly generated sims won't be of that supernatural kind. This setting does not affect your own sims. The zombies you see are just temporary. You can turn them off by eliminating the full moon phase (if vanilla). Master Controller gives you much more control in this regard. You can set percentage limits for every supernatural type separately. If I remember correctly, zombies were handled via Retuner.So it won't effect the existing supernaturals, it will just stop "making" them. So eventually I will have more humans in my town."Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:I think it's technically possible your sims can become zombies, but I have never seen it, which means it's probably rare. I'd advise to place at least the elixir consignment store somewhere in your town. Cure elexirs (the standard ones are sufficient and very cheap) are on sale occasionally. Or just make your own. Level 2 alchemy is enough for them, Red Valerian and Mandrake Root are needed (pretty much always on sale in the store, in case you don't have them in the garden). The elixir also comes in handy if you get toadified, unless you have someone capable of casting a sunlight charm. Since I first started playing TS3, I was terrified to go outside during a full moon. My poor family stayed trapped inside the entire night. So thank you for that clarification! But now I have to worry about getting "toadified"? Oh my. That doesn't sound good..."Turjan;c-17283236" wrote: You can evict families and put them somewhere else, yes. If you don't place them anywhere, the game will delete them. Story Progression will keep them as homeless sims, if I remember correctly. Getting them into the game again in that case is difficult, which means you should have a place for them ready, if you want to keep them.The Sims I would chose to move out would be townies. My concern if they are deleted it would corrupt my game if they are my Sims' friends or boss, etc."Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:Yes, there are premade houses available already in the base game, and more with some EP's.Cool! I have all EPs (and SPs) so I should have a nice selection to chose from. I'm terrible at building and really would rather just plop something down already done and then edit it to my liking."Turjan;c-17283236" wrote: University visits freeze time (this includes aging). You will return at exactly the same moment you left. You can send several sims together, but all of them have to be from the same household (your active one), and they have access to the full household funds. Keep in mind that university, unlike in real life, is a cash cow that keeps on giving, if you want. With two students, you can return with more than 100,000 simoleons more than when you came, if your sims study and you follow the "apply for additional funds" schedule.OH bummer. So it doesn't sound like I can work it like TS2 where I can send a bunch of kids from all of my families to college at the same time. Alternately, I guess I could move all of my kids to one house and move all them from there to University. Then when they are done, bring them back to the home and then disburse them to their own families/homes. *pondering*"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:Yes, a university degree lets your sim start at a higher career level from the get go (level 4 with an A, level 3 with a B, etc.) and also means a lot more money from the career (also depending on the grade; x2.5 with an A). Of course, you can also choose an additional trait at graduation.So it sounds like it might be worth the hassle (just like TS2 was). I'm not a University fan as the game play just isn't my deal. But the benefits might just get me to do it.Thanks for all these answers! And all before I started playing today. Time to get busy!

Well, you have to tick off the supernatural types you don't want to see in the game's "Options" before you start the new city. Then you won't have any supernatural townies at all, but you can still play them yourself."Toadify" is what a witch can do to you. However, most of the witches you don't play yourself are rather inept at raising their spellcasting level, which means that is mostly something that can happen in towns like Moonlight Falls, where you have pre-made level 8 or 6 witches. Elsewhere, many of the random townie "witches" never reach level 1. Aside from the easy to acquire "Cure" potion, a kiss from a lover can remove this.Don't forget to have your sims take the "university aptitude test" before they go. The money usually doesn't matter, unless you are completely broke, but the credits you can get towards your degree can cut down the university time considerably.

I can't remember the exact path to get to them, but you can remove the occult states of the townies that have already moved in if you are interested with Master Controller. About university - you've given me an idea I've never done before. I also enjoyed how I could send a lot of kids to uni in TS2 and was disappointed I couldn't do it the same way here, but I think I may try moving them all out into a lot and then send them all together. I do something somewhat similar in my games with a "retirement home", where if there are elders who live alone I will sometimes put them all in a large house to make room for families in the home they leave. I've tried playing through the university a few times, but the gameplay has been pretty non-compelling for me and the benefits not enough for me to take the time away from my normal rotational neighborhood, so I frequently skip it.

Playing entire neighborhood for first time - questions

UlanDhor
Seasoned Rookie
6 years ago
@Rhiannon58 I guess I can answer a few of those.

If you turn off supernatural beings in the "Options", newly generated sims won't be of that supernatural kind. This setting does not affect your own sims. The zombies you see are just temporary. You can turn them off by eliminating the full moon phase (if vanilla). Master Controller gives you much more control in this regard. You can set percentage limits for every supernatural type separately. If I remember correctly, zombies were handled via Retuner.
I think it's technically possible your sims can become zombies, but I have never seen it, which means it's probably rare. I'd advise to place at least the elixir consignment store somewhere in your town. Cure elexirs (the standard ones are sufficient and very cheap) are on sale occasionally. Or just make your own. Level 2 alchemy is enough for them, Red Valerian and Mandrake Root are needed (pretty much always on sale in the store, in case you don't have them in the garden). The elixir also comes in handy if you get toadified, unless you have someone capable of casting a sunlight charm.
You can evict families and put them somewhere else, yes. If you don't place them anywhere, the game will delete them. Story Progression will keep them as homeless sims, if I remember correctly. Getting them into the game again in that case is difficult, which means you should have a place for them ready, if you want to keep them.
Yes, there are premade houses available already in the base game, and more with some EP's.
University visits freeze time (this includes aging). You will return at exactly the same moment you left. You can send several sims together, but all of them have to be from the same household (your active one), and they have access to the full household funds. Keep in mind that university, unlike in real life, is a cash cow that keeps on giving, if you want. With two students, you can return with more than 100,000 simoleons more than when you came, if your sims study and you follow the "apply for additional funds" schedule.
Non-active sims will sometimes get random degrees assigned, yes. There is a specific subject at university for career criminals available though (the business degree will give you the benefits).
Yes, a university degree lets your sim start at a higher career level from the get go (level 4 with an A, level 3 with a B, etc.) and also means a lot more money from the career (also depending on the grade; x2.5 with an A). Of course, you can also choose an additional trait at graduation.
riennatelemnar
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
I guess I can answer a few of those.

You were extremely helpful! Thank you. A few more clarification questions:

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
If you turn off supernatural beings in the "Options", newly generated sims won't be of that supernatural kind. This setting does not affect your own sims. The zombies you see are just temporary. You can turn them off by eliminating the full moon phase (if vanilla). Master Controller gives you much more control in this regard. You can set percentage limits for every supernatural type separately. If I remember correctly, zombies were handled via Retuner.

So it won't effect the existing supernaturals, it will just stop "making" them. So eventually I will have more humans in my town.

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
I think it's technically possible your sims can become zombies, but I have never seen it, which means it's probably rare. I'd advise to place at least the elixir consignment store somewhere in your town. Cure elexirs (the standard ones are sufficient and very cheap) are on sale occasionally. Or just make your own. Level 2 alchemy is enough for them, Red Valerian and Mandrake Root are needed (pretty much always on sale in the store, in case you don't have them in the garden). The elixir also comes in handy if you get toadified, unless you have someone capable of casting a sunlight charm.

Since I first started playing TS3, I was terrified to go outside during a full moon. My poor family stayed trapped inside the entire night. So thank you for that clarification! But now I have to worry about getting "toadified"? Oh my. That doesn't sound good...

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
You can evict families and put them somewhere else, yes. If you don't place them anywhere, the game will delete them. Story Progression will keep them as homeless sims, if I remember correctly. Getting them into the game again in that case is difficult, which means you should have a place for them ready, if you want to keep them.

The Sims I would chose to move out would be townies. My concern if they are deleted it would corrupt my game if they are my Sims' friends or boss, etc.

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
Yes, there are premade houses available already in the base game, and more with some EP's.

Cool! I have all EPs (and SPs) so I should have a nice selection to chose from. I'm terrible at building and really would rather just plop something down already done and then edit it to my liking.

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
University visits freeze time (this includes aging). You will return at exactly the same moment you left. You can send several sims together, but all of them have to be from the same household (your active one), and they have access to the full household funds. Keep in mind that university, unlike in real life, is a cash cow that keeps on giving, if you want. With two students, you can return with more than 100,000 simoleons more than when you came, if your sims study and you follow the "apply for additional funds" schedule.

OH bummer. So it doesn't sound like I can work it like TS2 where I can send a bunch of kids from all of my families to college at the same time. Alternately, I guess I could move all of my kids to one house and move all them from there to University. Then when they are done, bring them back to the home and then disburse them to their own families/homes. *pondering*

"Turjan;c-17283236" wrote:
Yes, a university degree lets your sim start at a higher career level from the get go (level 4 with an A, level 3 with a B, etc.) and also means a lot more money from the career (also depending on the grade; x2.5 with an A). Of course, you can also choose an additional trait at graduation.

So it sounds like it might be worth the hassle (just like TS2 was). I'm not a University fan as the game play just isn't my deal. But the benefits might just get me to do it.

Thanks for all these answers! And all before I started playing today. Time to get busy!
carvernosam
6 years ago
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UlanDhor
Seasoned Rookie
6 years ago
Well, you have to tick off the supernatural types you don't want to see in the game's "Options" before you start the new city. Then you won't have any supernatural townies at all, but you can still play them yourself.

"Toadify" is what a witch can do to you. However, most of the witches you don't play yourself are rather inept at raising their spellcasting level, which means that is mostly something that can happen in towns like Moonlight Falls, where you have pre-made level 8 or 6 witches. Elsewhere, many of the random townie "witches" never reach level 1. Aside from the easy to acquire "Cure" potion, a kiss from a lover can remove this.

Don't forget to have your sims take the "university aptitude test" before they go. The money usually doesn't matter, unless you are completely broke, but the credits you can get towards your degree can cut down the university time considerably.
komnumep
6 years ago
I can't remember the exact path to get to them, but you can remove the occult states of the townies that have already moved in if you are interested with Master Controller.

About university - you've given me an idea I've never done before. I also enjoyed how I could send a lot of kids to uni in TS2 and was disappointed I couldn't do it the same way here, but I think I may try moving them all out into a lot and then send them all together. I do something somewhat similar in my games with a "retirement home", where if there are elders who live alone I will sometimes put them all in a large house to make room for families in the home they leave.

I've tried playing through the university a few times, but the gameplay has been pretty non-compelling for me and the benefits not enough for me to take the time away from my normal rotational neighborhood, so I frequently skip it.
igazor
6 years ago
The NRaas Traveler mod allows, by option, the sending of sims to Uni with friends from other local households. You end up with a playable combined household on the Uni side. When the term is over and the group returns home, the other sims automatically go back to their original households. We can make the fellow travelers/Uni students unselectable if we want them to operate in Uni strictly under their own autonomy, but either way the travel group does need to stay together and be one temporary Uni "household."

The sims from the other households must really be friends, with a relationship score of +40 or higher I think it is to be eligible to join the travel party. The sim initiating the travel/enrollment sequence gets billed for the travel, everyone's tuition, and ends up paying everyone's expenses along the way while in Uni World, but that can be settled up using household money transfers by way of MasterController after the term is over if necessary. This is the same mechanism that allows us to send sims on vacations with friends and loved ones from other local households without having to keep moving them in together and apart again after the trip/term is over.

NRaas > Traveler > Allowable Travelers
igazor
6 years ago
The Travel menu for vacations, the Enroll menu for Uni. The Traveler mod redoes those so that if the options for Friends is set, the allowable travelers or those to be enrolled one can select from expands accordingly. Among other things, this is how I get cousins, romantic partners, and other sims through Uni without having to send them one household at a time. Not sure there is a limit to the size of the travel party, the largest group I've ever sent through Uni was 7 or maybe 8. After a certain point, that many sims does get a bit difficult to keep control of especially if all of them are expected to do well academically.

If any members of the controllable travel party do end up not being enrolled for some reason, we can direct them to do so once there at the Admin Bldg.
igazor
6 years ago
"Rhiannon58;c-17289721" wrote:
What would be the advantage of using Nrass Traveler over just moving those student Sims into a house together and sending them all the University at the same time? That's truly not a criticism. It's me trying to understand how this all works.

1 - Traveler replaces the entire travel transition mechanism with one that looks just like EA's, but is far less prone to failures and sims getting stuck in foreign worlds unable to get back home (without reverting to a prior save before the trip out thus losing a week or two of gameplay and/or Uni progress).

2 - The mod also allows by option pregnant sims, those who have just returned home and are in a travel cooldown period, pets, and young sims down to babies to travel. Babies, toddlers, and pets must be accompanied by older human sims of course. It also allows teens to attend Uni to get a head start on their advanced studies while back home they are still in high school; I like to send them with older siblings and cousins, if they have any, and give them a very light course load the first time through when I do this just so they can have the experience.

But to answer the question really being asked, it's really a matter of player and sim convenience. If I have three households of 6 or even 12 or more sims each, getting the ones I want from those households to combine into the same one just so they can travel/enroll together and then return to a really overstuffed household (or making them buy a house of their own that they will later no longer need) so I can take it apart and put them back in their own homes again can be really disruptive. Even more so if these sims have partners, kids, pets by then who are staying behind and I don't really want to separate them from their families in any formal way. At the end of the day (term) though, you are right. All sims get to be controlled by the player and get an education, so we do end up with essentially the same results.
UlanDhor
Seasoned Rookie
6 years ago
I can just add my experience, even though I don't have enough points for proper statistics. Travels to WA worlds and university always broke something in my sims' hometown, which sometimes took quite a while to fix (WA trips broke more). Since I started using Traveler, this has become much less of an issue. Just saying.
riennatelemnar
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"Turjan;c-17289783" wrote:
I can just add my experience, even though I don't have enough points for proper statistics. Travels to WA worlds and university always broke something in my sims' hometown, which sometimes took quite a while to fix (WA trips broke more). Since I started using Traveler, this has become much less of an issue. Just saying.

That is quite odd. In my gen challenge game, I always sent my newlyweds on a honeymoon to some WA destination and I haven't had a problem with that save. I suppose if I stay with my current plan, we'll find out since I'll be moving 6 kids to one house, and moving them all to University together. Since I'm playing 6 different families, I guess we'll see if that messes anything up. Note that I've never played University so it will be an experience.

Seeing as my 2nd gen are 3-day-old toddlers, it's going to be a while. I suppose I could send a family or two on vacation and see if anything gets flaky. But frankly, most of them are pretty broke (no one has more than 19k and most have just a few thousand).

I won't use any young again potions. I think I've only used one EVER and that was because I had one of my Sims marry a Sim she had met, only to find out he was almost a senior (she was young adult). I didn't consider it a cheat since there is no way to figure out how old someone is until you move them in.