[ARCHIVED] [PH] Sims Not Gaining Character Values When Aging From Teen to YA

@crinrict 

It's even worse without MCCC running. Not only do I deal with no character values being applied, but I also experience the issue of not receiving the option to add a 3rd trait and new aspiration. I hadn't noticed this last night when I was testing (was probably just too tired and overlooked it). Since I always select one of the new teen aspirations for my teens and then select an "adult" aspiration once they age up to YA.

I would also like to note that since patching I have found that the parents of the teen sims (and yes, I am talking about all 3 households I play) are now brother and sister as well as spouse. That has been fun to deal with and I read the report from others about this issue already. Of course it's a simple fix, again using mods and cheats to remove the relationship bit that the game has decided to add for no reason.

And no offense here, but with python being the easiest of the languages I have learned over the years (even easier than HTML) I am confused as to why there are so many issues after patching. I can only guess that it goes back to my previous comments about how the dev teams do not test play the game. I am hoping we can get this changed and EA can find a way to create a test team that simply plays the game and reports issues before the patches go live. *fingers crossed* Being a retired DBA, I would offer my services (for a fee of course) to help test and point out script errors before they become a problem for others.

I will continue to test this trying as many things as I can on my end as there are still a couple of things that I want to try to attempt to resolve this. However, without decompiling the source code into the python scripts I don't believe I will be able to determine the issue. Below are the contents from the lastException.txt generated by the game with no mods running. Hopefully we can figure this out and I don't have to start my rotational legacy all over again.

Thanks!

I too noticed this recently when I aged up two teens, though it happened for me shortly before the Jan 17/23 game update.

Since I had some mods in my game, I rolled back to before my two teens aged up and moved my mods folder out and deleted my localthumbcache file. When I did that, the teens aged up with the appropriate character values & I didn't get any last exception reports in my Electronic Arts folder.

I then started adding some mods back, starting with the MCCC modules I use and it worked fine with only the MCCC modules in. However, as I added other mods in I had it happen a couple of more times, though one time it only happened to one of my two teens (i.e. one teen aged up with the appropriate character values and the second one didn't, and there was an MCCC last exception error when the second one aged up). So in my case I figured it was due to some mods I had in my game but perhaps there was more going on as it did seem a bit random and I wasn't able to pinpoint which mod was causing it (I don't use that many mods/no cc, mainly some MCCC modules and some bug fixing/game tweaking mods by LittleMsSam, Bienchen and Simvasion).

I do have all the packs and all kits by the Modern Menswear. 

Best regards,

Jennifer

@MapleSimmer 

I, too, had experienced this issue in the past. It's why I now save before blowing out candles because usually a simple restart of the game resolved the problem. However, I am now experiencing this issue 100% of time without any mods installed. A repair of the game and deletion of files did nothing to resolve the issue at all. I use very few mods and no CC. I use MCCC and SNB Bills to keep sims from getting rich over time. I had determined that that this is not a mod issue, but I am curious as to whether or not it is tied to the issue of sims not receiving their third trait upon aging up to YA. The reason I state this is because with MCCC installed I only encounter the issue of not receiving character values, and without MCCC installed I do not receive character values nor do I receive the option for the third trait and the change in aspirations. Since there have been no reports on that issue since November I can't say for sure if the two are tied together. I am, however, going to spend this weekend testing out a few different ideas that I have to see if I can pinpoint if the two are related. I am also curious as to whether or not this is only applying to sims created before the most recent patch. This, and many other theories, will need to be tested before I can provide more information on what may be going on here.

@crinrict 

I would like to provide a bit more information on my rotational play to help understand this error more. I usually time everything in my rotational play to be based around Sunday as it is the first day of the week. This means I rotate to the new household on Sunday at 6am and I even plan pregnancies so that way children age up to  teens on Sunday and then teens age up to YA on Sunday. This made me think that perhaps it has to do with the day of the week that the teens are aging up. Believe it or not, my theory was correct.

I decided to test this on every day of the week with two different households and here is what I found:

Sunday - Results in LE and no character values being applied

Monday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

Tuesday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

Wednesday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

Thursday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

Friday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

Saturday - Results in no LE, everything works as intended

As you can see from the results above, Sunday is the only day of the week where this error actually occurs. I couldn't tell you why Sunday is the only day this bug occurs, but I can say that after thorough testing the results can be repeated continually for me. Weird eh? I even turned aging off temporarily to push a family into Monday and then blew out the candles and it worked just fine. Seems like I am going to have to made Saturday the day that children and teens age up. I usually do it this way so the teens can spend 3 full weeks in classes and have time to study for the exams since I keep teens busy with after school activities as well as part-time jobs for some.

EDIT: I would like to add that I do believe that this error is, in fact, related to the error reported about not receiving the third trait when aging a teen up to YA. I encounter that error as well as not getting the results from the character values once I remove MCCC from my game. The only difference that I have from others that have reported about the missing third trait is that I can go into CAS and add the missing trait. I am wondering if those people reporting the third trait issue simply overlooked not receiving the proper character values.

@RipRizzle I too was aging up my teens that had this issue on a Sunday. I've been aging my teens up on Fridays more recently, so that may be why I've not noticed it before (I tend to keep my households in different saves vs playing rotationally in the same save). Though the main difference in my case is that mine did get their traits with no mods/only MCCC, though I only tested those two options once each as I was trying to go through to test if it was any of the other mods I had, but I wasn't actually able to narrow it down as it happened a few times once I started adding the other mods. So perhaps it was a fluke that it worked then as it did seem random with the other mods.

Best regards,
Jennifer

I'm also seeing the same problem. Since I play with auto-aging turned off, I rarely age my Sims. However, I finally decided to age up my teen sim to a young adult and noticed that after aging up I received an error notification described by
@RipRizzle. I removed the mods I had and tried to age my teenage sim again to see if there was a conflict with any mods, but the result was the same, she doesn't receive character value traits. My game is updated to the latest version 1.104.58.1030 . I made a short video showing the problem on eX-Twitter: https://twitter.com/JMoon_gamer/status/1751710506790916153  I play on PC and have all the game packs, except the kits.

Note: As experienced @RipRizzle, the error happens on Sundays. I had a birthday on a Sunday, I tested it the next day, on Monday and everything worked fine. 🤔