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veepersjeepers
7 months ago
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Relationship dynamics: Polyamory

Product: The Sims 4
Platform: Windows
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.318.1220
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All EPs, all GPs except JtB and Weddings, all SPs but CK, Toddlers, Paranormal, and LP.

Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a Loyal sim in a polyamorous relationship.

What happens when the bug occurs? Loyal sim is guilty.
What do you expect to see? The poly relationship to function without jealousy.

Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes, but I've tried without. Same result.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. 1.108.318.1220

[SalixCat - Modified thread title for clarity] 

Loyal sims totally break the poly relationships. Not only this, but if any of your poly partners are an engaged set, it will also trigger jealousy buffs when one of the engaged set interacts with a partner who isn't engaged.

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  • PipMenace's avatar
    PipMenace
    7 months ago
    @veepersjeepers The problem you’re having is that even though a lot of people reported this update as “polyamory” it’s really not - the relationship settings aren’t about how many people are in the relationship, they’re just about how open the relationship is. So you can use that to play a polyamory story by setting your sims to have open relationships and pretending, but the game is still assuming relationships consist of 2 people and so the loyal and jealous traits act accordingly when used.

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  • veepersjeepers's avatar
    veepersjeepers
    7 months ago

    After further investigation, there's another issue. There's no way to make a closed poly relationship out of CAS, maybe at all? (ex. throuple) because if the sim has closed boundaries, it will always be cheating. This means people can come into the relationship when you only want the throuple. 

  • SimmerStar4's avatar
    SimmerStar4
    Rising Ace
    7 months ago

    @veepersjeepers 

    I suspect re. the closed polycule/throuple/etc. that this might be a limitation of how the romantic boundaries feature has been implemented, unfortunately - I would suggest maybe sending your feedback to the feedback and suggestions forums!

    Hi! I'm SimmerStar4 (they/them). I'm not an expert on game issues, so don't take me as one! I'm just a Sims player who wants to try and help fellow players, and who finds game bugs and issues interesting.

  • veepersjeepers's avatar
    veepersjeepers
    7 months ago

    agree, but the original issue is still an issue. engaged sims experience jealousy.

  • SimmerStar4's avatar
    SimmerStar4
    Rising Ace
    7 months ago

    @veepersjeepers 

    Yes - hopefully, the Sims team will include fixing this in the next patch (which hopefully won't be long now, for all these fixes).

    Hi! I'm SimmerStar4 (they/them). I'm not an expert on game issues, so don't take me as one! I'm just a Sims player who wants to try and help fellow players, and who finds game bugs and issues interesting.

  • flauschtrud's avatar
    flauschtrud
    Seasoned Ace
    7 months ago
    @veepersjeepers To be honest, I'm happy that they made adjustments for certain traits, so that not all Sims feel the same in open relationships (I think it is similar for jealous Sims). Otherwise their character traits would just be meaningless.

    I don't understand what you mean with your second comment. I don't think Sims will autonomously join your throuple just because the Sims have open boundaries. They might ask maybe, but you can always say no as a player, same as with closed relationships.
  • veepersjeepers's avatar
    veepersjeepers
    7 months ago

    sure, but if they're in an established relationship, shouldn't the loyalty be to that relationship, regardless of how many partners? that would be the point of trying to make it a closed throuple/polycule. if they started going behind those partners backs, THAT would be disloyal.

  • PipMenace's avatar
    PipMenace
    Hero
    7 months ago
    @veepersjeepers The problem you’re having is that even though a lot of people reported this update as “polyamory” it’s really not - the relationship settings aren’t about how many people are in the relationship, they’re just about how open the relationship is. So you can use that to play a polyamory story by setting your sims to have open relationships and pretending, but the game is still assuming relationships consist of 2 people and so the loyal and jealous traits act accordingly when used.
  • skylar45's avatar
    skylar45
    Rising Rookie
    7 months ago

    Is this why my sim with the loyal trait gets a tense moodlet about didn’t break partners boundaries but not sure if they can be with more than one person even though I selected no to the boundaries?

  • nghsrae14's avatar
    nghsrae14
    7 months ago

    Ok so polyamory in game isn't polyamory. It's more akin to polyagomy because it's still just one on one interactions. My polycule(irl) consists of 3 people including myself, we do everything together and we all sleep in the same bed. Their kids are mine automatically because I'm their partner and they are mine. In game however your sim just stands there awkwardly while their partners are being romantic and I have to "adopt as caretaker" to even be recognized by the kid sim as a parental figure. Not only that in the family tree my third nonchildbearing sim doesn't show up in the kiddo sim's tree as a parent at all, meaning my sim *could* have a kid through science and even raised as siblings could become romantic partners which is disgusting. Please Maxis/EA y'all need to fix this.

  • jpkarlsen's avatar
    jpkarlsen
    Hero (Retired)
    7 months ago

    @nghsrae14 

    It works as intended so there is nothing to fix. What you suggest would raise the games rating so is never going to happen.

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