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Re: Female werewolves use a masculine frame while transformed

@evilgenius1993     Hello!  Unfortunately, I think this is by design.  All werewolves were given the same "masculine" frame.  My guess is they didn't want werewolves to have breasts?  Considering how atrocious most feminine clothes look on the masculine frame, I think it was not the right decision.  Perhaps it was a matter of showing female wolves "naked"?  However, they're completely covered in fur so that shouldn't be an issue either.

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  • evilgenius1993's avatar
    evilgenius1993
    Seasoned Novice
    4 years ago

    Yeah, if it's intentional, then it was definitely the wrong choice. I hope somebody makes a mod to fix it

  • menatombo's avatar
    menatombo
    4 years ago

    My guess is someone would cry "Ew! Furries" if werewolves looked... Attractive? I also hope someone makes a mod for werewolves. It's stupid that I can't tell if I'm hitting on a male or female. I'd rather know instead of everyone suddenly being androgenous. If I wanted that, I'd do that myself. Really messes with my gay characters not being able to tell at a glance what I'm hitting on.

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago

    @evilgenius1993 , in addition to what @JonaO703 said, I wanted to say that while I am hardly an expert on Werewolf lore (other than they are not supposed to have long tails, which this pack got right!) I do know that dogs and wolves usually have more than 2 breasts, usually around 8,  and that could look rather odd on a Werewolf Sim as well!  🤣   While they most likely would have gone with just 2, that isn't very wolflike .😅

  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @PugLove888 

    "I do know that dogs and wolves usually have more than 2 breasts, usually around 8,  and that could look rather odd on a Werewolf Sim as well!  🤣 "

    ROTFL!

    Yeah, I suspect they had an issue with all female werewolves spawning in that default peach strapless bra...  😉 which would be even funnier if there were four of them in a row!

  • JonaO703's avatar
    JonaO703
    Hero
    4 years ago

    I don't think werewolves should be compared with wolves or dogs.  Male wolves and dogs can have multiple nipples but it wouldn't matter since the sims are covered in fur.  In TS4 werewolves have human shaped legs and feet.  So why can't female werewolves just retain the frame of their human form?  Again, they're covered in fur so it shouldn't matter.  I found a number of concept art when i searched for female werewolf. 

    I do not own these images and they may be subject to copyright.

    While these are not representative of the werewolves in TS4, they do illustrate how the feminine frame could be depicted in the game.

  • Breasts are evil, created by the devil...but don't worry because the social justice warriors have created 'Gender Neutrality' so as males and females become one gender.

    You know how it goes...'We all came from the same zygote'. Nakedness is also evil which is why we have mosaics covering sims during showers and baths.

    The world is a really messed up place with some strange beliefs...and a whole lot of them are in the Sims 4! Yay!!

    So when your girl transitions into a werewolf, she effectively becomes male. Sexist much? 

    It's definitely a poor show!

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    3 years ago

    @JonaO703 ,  I was more going for a humorous angle, but also thinking that this possibly could be the thinking of the developers, in order to make it not be quite so ridiculous if some player was expecting a triple bikini top! 😅

      But most likely it was done to make sure the more of the clothing could be used on the Werewolf form.  Much of the clothing in this pack are styles that work on masculine or feminine frames for regular Sims, but add in the Werewolf frame and complicate it by making 2 forms of Werewolves (with varying weights) and I can see why they would opt for a simpler solution.  Otherwise, every clothing option would have to fit 4 different frames (not counting differing weights) and that would mean there would be more failures with clothing items for the wolf forms.  I think this was a more practical solution for that problem. Not all of the clothing works on the Werewolf form as it is, but at least most of it does, from what I tried out.  But yes, I would have preferred to have Werewolves with both female and male frames, but I understand why this probably wasn't done that way. 

    As for comparing Werewolves to wolves & dogs, I see no problem with this, especially comparing them to wolves, as well as humans, since they were always seen by many as an amalgamation of human & wolf. They have attributes of both canines & primates, so all these comparisons make sense, even though a Werewolf as a mythical creature doesn't have to have all aspects of either primates or canines.  Even the pictures you included are different from one another, especially the last one, as the face of that Werewolf is more canine compared to the more human face of the other two.  Then, there is always artistic license -- for centuries Vampires did not sparkle, and then recently we got the Twilight books .  😅

    @xochiquetzl_xkvn , I'm glad you enjoyed my speculative joke and the mental images it provided! 😅🤣